Notice: We request that you don't just set up a new account at this time if you are a previous user.
If you used to be one of our moderators, please feel free to reach out to Chris via the facebook Outerlimits4x4 group and he will get you set back up with access should he need you.
Recovery:If you cannot access your old email address and don't remember your password, please click here to log a change of email address so you can do a password reset.

setting pinion depth

Tech Talk for Cruiser owners.

Moderators: toaddog, Elmo, DUDELUX

Post Reply
Posts: 49
Joined: Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:14 pm
Location: Canberra

setting pinion depth

Post by Lowisuzu »

I am currently setting up a new set of gears in my hilux diff's.
Im After some advice on pinion depth.
Below is a photo of how i have the diff set up now.
how does it look as per the markings on the teeth? (a little hard to see i know)
Image
Last edited by Lowisuzu on Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Posts: 166
Joined: Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:04 pm
Location: SW Victoria

Re: setting pnion depth

Post by djroberts »

Personally, that looks fine. I would be happy with that - if anything you could drop the pinion height a little.

** this is an edit:

Looking at the back side of the teeth i wouldn't touch the pinion height - on the back of the teeth i would say, if anything, to lift the pinion height. looks like you have set it up about as good as you can.

Cheers, D.
loose as a goose
Posts: 16
Joined: Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:53 pm
Location: Toowoomba, QLD

Re: setting pnion depth

Post by eChef »

Just a questions about setting the pinion depth... is it as simple as just using some shims to adjust it? bit of a noob with diffs but will be doing mine later this year
Posts: 166
Joined: Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:04 pm
Location: SW Victoria

Re: setting pnion depth

Post by djroberts »

eChef wrote:Just a questions about setting the pinion depth... is it as simple as just using some shims to adjust it? bit of a noob with diffs but will be doing mine later this year
Pretty much. It can be hassle having to pull the bearing off and putting it back on when changing the shim pack but other than that it's straight forward enough.

A puller set and hydraulic press help tremendously!

Cheers, D.
loose as a goose
Posts: 71
Joined: Fri May 14, 2010 7:36 pm
Location: dubbo nsw

Re: setting pnion depth

Post by jimmy087 »

looks pretty good if that is the rear diff of your lux if its the front you should probly be checking the pattern on the other side of the crown wheel.
A little gay rime i learnt at tafe that stuck with me is, Face and flank move the crank (pinion)toe and heel move the wheel (crownwheel). works every time as you cant change one without the other if your back lash is correct which it more important than pattern anyway. ;)
team Oh Deere 9th overall 2011&2012
Posts: 49
Joined: Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:14 pm
Location: Canberra

Re: setting pnion depth

Post by Lowisuzu »

Yep, definately the rear.

Pulling the diff down, and pressing out the pinion takes minutes if you have the right tools.
i bought a cheap Shop press ($100) and it is wonderful! only takes a couple seconds to press the pinion out, and slightly longer to press it back in.
http://www.gearinstalls.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; has given me heaps of pointers, and i have copied a couple of the tools he has made for his installs.

This is also my first toyota Diff rebuild so i just want to make sure i have it all right.
waiting for a in/lb torque wrench to turn up in the mail so i can set the pinion pre load, then its back in the truck and i will start on the front diff.
Posts: 443
Joined: Tue Dec 25, 2007 6:03 pm
Location: Tasmania, Australia

Re: setting pnion depth

Post by vk7ybi »

What model in/lb wrench are you waiting on?
Posts: 49
Joined: Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:14 pm
Location: Canberra

Re: setting pnion depth

Post by Lowisuzu »

i have bought a Park Tools TW-1.
i was unable to find anything in Aus suitable for the task so had to buy overseas... Ugh... :?
Posts: 443
Joined: Tue Dec 25, 2007 6:03 pm
Location: Tasmania, Australia

Re: setting pinion depth

Post by vk7ybi »

I had the same trouble.. Looked everywhere, even specialist tool shops couldn't find me one.. Ended up getting a nice dial type in/lb torque wrench on eBay..

gearinstalls.com is a nice resource.. I'm about to install some Nitro gears and ARBs into my 40..
Posts: 3038
Joined: Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:06 pm
Location: VIC

Re: setting pnion depth

Post by dogbreath_48 »

Lowisuzu wrote:i have bought a Park Tools TW-1.
i was unable to find anything in Aus suitable for the task so had to buy overseas... Ugh... :?
(your weight in kg) * (9.8) * (length of horizontal bar in m) = torque on fitting

Keep hanging off the horizontal bar till the nut stops turning ;)
Tetanus rolling on 37's
Posts: 49
Joined: Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:14 pm
Location: Canberra

Re: setting pnion depth

Post by Lowisuzu »

dogbreath_48 wrote:
Lowisuzu wrote:i have bought a Park Tools TW-1.
i was unable to find anything in Aus suitable for the task so had to buy overseas... Ugh... :?
(your weight in kg) * (9.8) * (length of horizontal bar in m) = torque on fitting

Keep hanging off the horizontal bar till the nut stops turning ;)

the Park TW-1 is 0-60 INCH / Lb... for measuring the pinion pre load. not for tightening anything up... LOL.
Posts: 3038
Joined: Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:06 pm
Location: VIC

Re: setting pnion depth

Post by dogbreath_48 »

Lowisuzu wrote:
dogbreath_48 wrote:
Lowisuzu wrote:i have bought a Park Tools TW-1.
i was unable to find anything in Aus suitable for the task so had to buy overseas... Ugh... :?
(your weight in kg) * (9.8) * (length of horizontal bar in m) = torque on fitting

Keep hanging off the horizontal bar till the nut stops turning ;)

the Park TW-1 is 0-60 INCH / Lb... for measuring the pinion pre load. not for tightening anything up... LOL.
:oops: :oops: :oops:

Would pay to read the thread properly, huh? Most people won't have a torque wrench with high enough rating to do the pinion nut to the nominated range.
Tetanus rolling on 37's
Posts: 15549
Joined: Tue Oct 22, 2002 9:23 am
Location: Your Mummas House!

Re: setting pinion depth

Post by bj on roids »

Great thread!
hands and mums dont count!!!
Posts: 49
Joined: Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:14 pm
Location: Canberra

Re: setting pinion depth

Post by Lowisuzu »

So my 0-60in/lb torque wrench turned up this morning, was just sitting on my door step when i went to work this morning.
Pretty damn quick delivery from the USA, got it for a reasonable price too. (glad i didnt fork out to have it express posted, dont think it could have turned up any quicker)

start putting the diff back together and setting the pinion pre load tonight (providing i dont get in trouble for spending too much time in the shed...)
Posts: 49
Joined: Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:14 pm
Location: Canberra

Re: setting pinion depth

Post by Lowisuzu »

If anyone is interested, this is where i got my torque wrench from
Approx $55AUD delivered.

http://stores.ebay.com.au/bikewagon
Posts: 443
Joined: Tue Dec 25, 2007 6:03 pm
Location: Tasmania, Australia

Re: setting pinion depth

Post by vk7ybi »

I just found a similar torque wrench at T&E Tools.. Its more expensive, but its local.. http://www.tetools.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; part# 7290 $95.70 ex..
Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 41 guests