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sas shorty

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Post by 95shorty »

some of what i got done today, made all the links then welded up all the bracketry on the chassis and bolted it all in for a look again.

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Post by -Scott- »

It's coming together well.

Have you spoken to an engineer about your panhard rod? My understanding is that they can experience large forces, and I'm wondering if that bend is asking for hassles when it comes to registration. I presume you had to go that way for the steering linkages? If it went the other way you may not need the kink to clear the diff.
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-Scott- wrote:It's coming together well.

Have you spoken to an engineer about your panhard rod? My understanding is that they can experience large forces, and I'm wondering if that bend is asking for hassles when it comes to registration. I presume you had to go that way for the steering linkages? If it went the other way you may not need the kink to clear the diff.

yeah i had to put it there because of where the drag link runs and the diff cap is, bit of a piss off really but i hope it works okay, its a bundera panhard rod which had that bend in it already so shouldn't have any troubles, ive just got to work out what steering to use because of the larger hole in the 60 series pitman arm the bundera ball joint doesn't fit in it i think a 75 series steering setup will work tho,
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I was more concerned about the chassis end of the panhard than the diff end .. have a look at most factory mounts they are quite a bit beefier in the amount of attachment area they have to the chassis .. I would be adding some extra material to it ..

This is the only useful pic I could find ... but that is a recycled 80 series panhard mount ..

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yeah but mots panhard brackets are a lot further away from the chassis making it more of a leverage point where mine is very close to the chassis, ive also got to put a cross brace between the two chassis rails which will join onto the bracket to help strengthen it up more,
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95shorty wrote:yeah but mots panhard brackets are a lot further away from the chassis making it more of a leverage point where mine is very close to the chassis, ive also got to put a cross brace between the two chassis rails which will join onto the bracket to help strengthen it up more,
I appreciate that .. But most 4x4's dont get flogged like a red headed step child in the bush with big rubber etc as well ..
Now that I stopped and took a closer look at the pics I can see that it goes a long way up the inside of the chassis rail .. I was initally thinking it was just two tabs butt welded to the bottom of the chassis.

I have been suprised at how may 4wd's I have seen that get heavily used offroad with cracks in odd places .. especially modded ones..
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Post by Guy »

Are you going to put a cross member under the motor area at all ?

I suppose once the mount from the panhard to the opposing chassis rail is done it will act as one .. just seems a long way to go all the way from the gearbox mount to basically the bumper without one.
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just a bit of an update of where im at now...

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sorry about the crappy phone pics again :roll:
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housing is assembled and under now just got to set up the steering and drive shaft and she is away,


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finished off welding the new cross member in and tacked the brake line brackets on and bled brakes today then tightened up all bolts and took for a test drive not too bad :P

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Post by NJV6 »

Looks like longer springs are needed!
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NJV6 wrote:Looks like longer springs are needed!

yeah haha i really need slightly shorter shocks or need to lift the shock towers a little higher and then run some retainers, theyre only standard bundera front coils so ill probably end up getting some made to suit the rig...
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Post by MightyMits »

Hey, great job, you make it look easy. :)
Looks a much neater job than mine.
Did you modify the brake system to compensate for the bigger hilux calipers?
I recently bought The airbagged Sasd Shorty from NSW and the brakes dont really work, the problem is that the standard proportioning valve reduces the overall pressure too much.
Also, did you put in bump stops?
Thanks
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MightyMits wrote:Hey, great job, you make it look easy. :)
Looks a much neater job than mine.
Did you modify the brake system to compensate for the bigger hilux calipers?
I recently bought The airbagged Sasd Shorty from NSW and the brakes dont really work, the problem is that the standard proportioning valve reduces the overall pressure too much.
Also, did you put in bump stops?
Thanks

g'day yeah i looked at that rig myself on the net,thought about getting it haha, ahh havent really driven it much but they seem to work well so far.. and i have bump stops for it but havent fitted them as i am waiting on some coil spacers to lift it up a bit and then ill sort them out,
Cheers Ryan...
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Post by GetAShorty »

that looks SICK dude.. im hoping my shorty will look as tough as yours one day.. top job..
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Post by MudRaider »

Those later model two doors are pretty sexy. Wish they would of brought them to the States. Great work and write-up. :popcorn:
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Post by MightyMits »

Hey 95shorty,
How did you run your , cant remember the correct name, steering link behind the axle? Did you buy off the shelf hilux reverse hilux swivle hub arms?

Cause my drag link and steering damper tend to hit each other.

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Post by vk7ybi »

Bundera lower kingping steering arms and Bundera tie rod on a flipped hilux axle housing with a Bundera high pinion centre.
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Post by MightyMits »

vk7ybi wrote:Bundera lower kingping steering arms and Bundera tie rod on a flipped hilux axle housing with a Bundera high pinion centre.
Yeah, i have a flipped hilux axle, but i think mine has hilux steering arms that run the draglink and steering rod in front. They just rub a bit when articulated so ive been thinking of getting steering arms that run the steering rod behind the axle and the draglink infront
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Post by vk7ybi »

You probably have 70 series arms and rods. I think the general consensus is that the 4x4 Labs steering is the ultimate solution. http://www.4x4labs.com/products/steerin ... ng-system/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Perhaps something like that might work for you.
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