Which 4x4 has this style of shock absorber mounts?

[BabyGodzillaGTi-R]

Hey guys need your assistance.
Any idea which 4x4s running rear leaf springs that runs this style of absorber mounting from the factory.
Top is pin and rear is an eye.


I'm driving a Daihatsu Rocky and being a cheap bugger i'm looking for an alternative OEM replacement shock that is relatively long and fairly soft.

The shock i'm currently using (i've no idea it's from which car) is pretty long but the valving is too darn hard.
Like as if it prevents the rear springs from doing the work.
Like the "bound" is too darn hard that doesn't allow the spring to compress mainly when both rear tyres go over a speed hump.
If it's like going over undulating terrain where you need to drive slowly and makes the axles cross and articulates it rides fine as it feels very control.
But over any bumpy gravel road it's too darn hard at the rear.

Previously was using Gabriel Ryders that's is supposedly meant for my Rocky at the rear but they are just too short and it keeps tearing the shock mounts.
Valving is just fine.

Appreciate your kind help if you guys could contribute a list of cars you can think of which runs this style of shock absorber mounting and better still if anyone knows off hand how long are they and if they are coil sprung or leafsprung.

Cheers.

[Percy]

Commodore rear will fit, not exactly sure on which models, I know they fit a Vitara rear end and are long enough for the coils, should be plenty for a Rocky.

[Mr DJ]

90's Surf/4Runner (130 series) rear runs the same pin/eye setup with coils.

Have you measured the compressed & extended lengths you need ??
Rancho are pretty soft and have a broad range but may not be as cheap as some.

[supazuk]

i have vs wagon rears in the front of my 100mm lifted sierra and they work ok.
you really need to measure you car when flexing it to see what will fit.

[BundyRumandCoke]

If your running an earlyish Rocky, all leaf sprung, just get used to the harsh ride, especially if its a SWB, and you want to do things on the cheap. Been there, done that. I played extensively with the suspension on my Rocky, building my own leaves from various suspensions, and yes all on the cheap as I didnt have a lot of money back then. Slow speed, I could get play, but on fast dirt roads, it just wouldnt rspond, and the back would always skip all over the place.





I used to be able to climb my right front wheel up onto a rock about headlight height, and the right rear wheel was about 2 inches off the ground. Unfortunately, those pics are currently on a dead computer, which one day, when I get the time, I will be transferring the hard drives from into a refurbed computer I have bought.

Of course, double diff locks helped too.

[Yom]

JK Wrangler front shocks have top pin and lower eye as well.

[RAY185]

The Monroe catalogue has all the vehicle listings with eye/pin sizes, configurations and open/closed lengths so you could easily cross-reference through that to find an OE spec shock to suit your application. Obviously you wouldn't have to buy Monroe branded shocks once you find the info you need...

[DamTriton]

Kia Sportage, and also RAV4 rears ('99 model) if you want a bit longer...

[NJV6]

Rear Nh-NL Pajero

[metak]

why dont you get a pin to eye adaptor then you can run any shock you can get your hands on

[Mr DJ]

May not much point getting pin to eye adaptors if you have no idea what length shocks you need as they may not even be needed or make the compressed length too long.

Step 1 - measure compressed and extended lengths.

[oldmate]

I'd take the standard rocky shock down to a ford/holden wrecker and match one up. Because a commo/falcon weights about the same as a rocky it would be easier getting a better matched shock i rekon. Bit of luck you might get one from the rear of a leaf sprung car. Front of a 60 series, rear of an 80 series cruisers are pin-eye like that, but those wagons weight a good tonne more than a rocky.

[Guy]

I'd take the standard rocky shock down to a ford/holden wrecker and match one up. Because a commo/falcon weights about the same as a rocky it would be easier getting a better matched shock i rekon. Bit of luck you might get one from the rear of a leaf sprung car. Front of a 60 series, rear of an 80 series cruisers are pin-eye like that, but those wagons weight a good tonne more than a rocky.

They are valved for nice soft coils .. not all the flex of a garden trailer rocky leaf springs.

[BabyGodzillaGTi-R]

If your running an earlyish Rocky, all leaf sprung, just get used to the harsh ride, especially if its a SWB, and you want to do things on the cheap. Been there, done that. I played extensively with the suspension on my Rocky, building my own leaves from various suspensions, and yes all on the cheap as I didnt have a lot of money back then. Slow speed, I could get play, but on fast dirt roads, it just wouldnt rspond, and the back would always skip all over the place.





I used to be able to climb my right front wheel up onto a rock about headlight height, and the right rear wheel was about 2 inches off the ground. Unfortunately, those pics are currently on a dead computer, which one day, when I get the time, I will be transferring the hard drives from into a refurbed computer I have bought.

Of course, double diff locks helped too.

The springs are fine, it's just the shocks at the rear is too hard.
I'm not using the stock mounting. It's currently setup like /\ at the back.
If i recall the shocks are around 21-22 inch long from mounting to mounting.
I'm running the same shocks as the front which is just about right (probably coz the front is heavy with a diesel engine and the winch).
Just to share abit more of my setup, it's currently SPOA and i'm reusing back my Ultimate Suspension Rocky leafsprings.
The ride would probably be better without the rear shocks lol but the car would bounce me of the planet. lol

I suspect it could be a Pajero shock but i havent a clue it's from which one.
I inherited these shocks coz they were initially fitted on the back of a early 90s Toyota 4 runner LN130 with coils and they were even too darn hard for this Toyota too.

Does anyone know off hand generally which shock is harder /softer for coils / leafspring application.

Supazook,
Sorry what's a VS Wagon? Is that a Holden? Sorry to sound blur but i'm from Malaysia.

DAMKIA,
which Sportage? What year/ generation in particular? And idea roughly what's the stock length?

NJV6.
Pajero NH-NLs, are the coils or leafsprung? And idea roughly what's the stock length?

Thanks for your assistance guys.

[lump_a_charcoal]

How is your shackle angle?

[BabyGodzillaGTi-R]

How is your shackle angle?

Pictures describes a thousand words.
Check out my previous thread.
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic ... 0#p1932490" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[lump_a_charcoal]

Reason I ask is that my shocks (adjustable Ranchos) should be soft enough, but my stoopid shackle angle ruins my ride.

[BabyGodzillaGTi-R]

Ranchos back here are pretty pricey. When you say that your shackle angle ruined the ride is it because it's too upright/ verticle or very slanted/ towards horizontal?
Did you see the pics on my other thread? What do u think of it?

So as a general thumb the more upright/ verticle the shackle angles are the stiffer or softer the ride?

Anyway i still suspect its the rear shocks are just not the right valving.

What's in the pipeline in the following order is to remove a leaf spring at the rear, shorter leaf spring shackles and dampers

[lump_a_charcoal]

Ideally, your shackles will point backwards at about 40 degrees.
If they are straight up and down, you will experience a hard ride.

In one of your flex pics, your far side shackle was at about the right angle, but this was under compression, so I suspect that they might be too vertical.

Removing a leaf may help, as the leaf will flatten out a bit, but it could also lead to axle wrap.