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Weld on tow points

Post by sierrajim »

A while ago someone was doing some weld on tow point plates.

Any ideas on who does/carries them? There's no need for official rating as there will be no comp use but they doo need to be safe.
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Re: Weld on tow points

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Bubs? :?
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Re: Weld on tow points

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Re: Weld on tow points

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Bloody exspensive option these about $160 each last time i asked, thats $640 for four I changed my mind.
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Re: Weld on tow points

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have a fabrication shop laser cut you some, to your design, out of heavy plate?
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Re: Weld on tow points

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$25ea

Like these welded on my chassis

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Re: Weld on tow points

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bubs wrote:$25ea

Like these welded on my chassis
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Re: Weld on tow points

Post by MARKx4 »

oldmate wrote:
bubs wrote:$25ea

Like these welded on my chassis
How come your name is bubs, but your company name and number plate say bud?
Probly because he didnt want to pay for custom plates with 4 letters and just worked out the letters on a standard number plate desgin.

I dont think it makes much difference anyway...

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Re: Weld on tow points

Post by sierrajim »

Cheers Bubs (I just called a bloke Bubs, does that make me Grimace than teal slacks??)

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Re: Weld on tow points

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oldmate wrote:
bubs wrote:$25ea

Like these welded on my chassis
How come your name is bubs, but your company name and number plate say bud?
My actual name is Buddy, bubs is a nick name courtesy of RUFF, NICK & GUTS way back in the day
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Re: Weld on tow points

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bubs wrote:
oldmate wrote:
bubs wrote:$25ea

Like these welded on my chassis
How come your name is bubs, but your company name and number plate say bud?
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Re: Weld on tow points

Post by bazzle »

Weding can be OK but.. doesnt matter if its for comp use or general recovery, the paramaters are the same.

I test welds as part of my job.
May I sugest that you 'always" put a bolt through as a secondary safety factor.

I would also like to question the fillet size in the pic of Buds above. Withuot seeing it in the flesh it looks to be offset and the throat is too small.

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Re: Weld on tow points

Post by dano80 »

bubs wrote:$25ea

Like these welded on my chassis

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Offtopic alittle....
Are these shackles the ones you make Bubs?
And what size are they, centre to centre, cost?
PM if you like, or whatever

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Re: Weld on tow points

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dano80 wrote: Offtopic alittle....
Are these shackles the ones you make Bubs?
And what size are they, centre to centre, cost?
PM if you like, or whatever

Cheers, Dano

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Re: Weld on tow points

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RAY185 wrote:
dano80 wrote: Offtopic alittle....
Are these shackles the ones you make Bubs?
And what size are they, centre to centre, cost?
PM if you like, or whatever

Cheers, Dano

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Re: Weld on tow points

Post by YN67highlux »

bazzle wrote:Weding can be OK but.. doesnt matter if its for comp use or general recovery, the paramaters are the same.

I test welds as part of my job.
May I sugest that you 'always" put a bolt through as a secondary safety factor.

I would also like to question the fillet size in the pic of Buds above. Withuot seeing it in the flesh it looks to be offset and the throat is too small.

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looks fine to me. if he were welding 10mm plate to 10mm plate yeah a bit small in the throat, but there is no point having the weld thicker than the thinest material, (3-4mm chassis) and it is supposed to be offset
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Re: Weld on tow points

Post by bj on roids »

YN67highlux wrote:
bazzle wrote:Weding can be OK but.. doesnt matter if its for comp use or general recovery, the paramaters are the same.

I test welds as part of my job.
May I sugest that you 'always" put a bolt through as a secondary safety factor.

I would also like to question the fillet size in the pic of Buds above. Withuot seeing it in the flesh it looks to be offset and the throat is too small.

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looks fine to me. if he were welding 10mm plate to 10mm plate yeah a bit small in the throat, but there is no point having the weld thicker than the thinest material, (3-4mm chassis) and it is supposed to be offset
I agree, there is plenty on there, it is probably not the best pic, but I have seen a bit of his work and it has all been spot on.
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Re: Weld on tow points

Post by Screwy »

Out of interest on a similar topic....

Has anyone paid much attention to the CCDA official documentation on recovery points?

They say no to eyelets of any type ( even like M30 6 tonne ones )

They allow cast 'Hooks' the ones you can buy from repco with 2 bolts in them ( no specs on where to bolt them or just through the 2.5mm thick chassis )

They allow a weld on tow hook. No specs on what type, thickness, location or anything.

In some of the comps i have been to recently, ive noticed tow hooks welded to the side of a chassis at the front that cant be more then 5 mm thick....
Leaving that asside.....

A weldon tow hook is only as strong as the weld holding it. Most of these points arent welded by professionals and whether its 10mm, 20mm or 3mm plate, its only as strong as the weld.

A decent coat of paint over a bad weld cant make a weld look good and it passes scrutineering :shock:

Anything less then 8mm will prob bend straight away first snatch you do on a side angle.....

anyone else think the blokes in charge of the spec sheets for these points need to get there heads screwed on?

An eyelet M25 rated at 3.2tonne bolted to 12mm thick bullbar is knocked back, but the 6mm plate welded to the side of the bullbar with a bow shackle in it is allowed :shock:

Your work is very impressive buddy. Your points look sweet :armsup:

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Re: Weld on tow points

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Here is couple of good docs regarding tow hooks. Explains why hooks are preferred over eye type points

http://www.ccvc.org.nz/CCVC-SAFETY-0002 ... 050803.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.ccvc.org.nz/CCVC-SAFETY-0003 ... 050803.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Im sure this one has been seen before, but is some good info nonetheless

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Re: Weld on tow points

Post by bazzle »

Eye type hooks are ok IF rated.
Those docs show all points to be Bolted.

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