Bull Bar regulations

[stilivn]

Looking into design limits on my tube bar i'm planning so was looking up ADR's and found this
http://www.racv.com.au/wps/wcm/connect/ ... +bull+bars" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

australian design rules application

As discussed above, the bull-bar standard, as well as Victorian roadworthiness regulations, require vehicles to continue to comply with all applicable ADRs. There are three occupant protection crash tests listed in the ADRs.

RACV recommends motorists who decide to purchase a bull-bar ask the distributor for a guarantee that the fitting of their product will not result in non-compliance with any relevant ADRs. This is particularly important if your vehicle is fitted with an airbag.

To find out which of the occupant protection ADRs your vehicle must comply with, read below.
ADR 69: full frontal impact occupant protection

Applies to :

All new model passenger cars sold from 1 July 1995 and 1 Jan 1996 for all new passenger cars.
All new off-road passenger and forward control passenger vehicles from 1 Jan 2000 (and all new models from 1 Jan 1998)

ADR 72: dynamic side impact occupant protection

Applies to :

All new passenger cars sold from 1 Jan 2004 (and all new models from 1 Jan 1999)
All off-road passenger and forward control vehicles from 1 Jan 2004(and all new models from 1 Jan 2000)

ADR 73: offset frontal impact protection

Applies to :

All new passenger cars (with a gross mass less than 2.5 tonnes) sold from 1 Jan 2004 (and all new models from 1 Jan 2000)
It does not apply to off-road passenger or forward control vehicles.

So am I right in thinking that being a 93 model landcruiser I dont have to worry about limitations as most specifications are only for post 95 model vehicles? Anyone had any experience in this?

[Guy]

Looking into design limits on my tube bar i'm planning so was looking up ADR's and found this
http://www.racv.com.au/wps/wcm/connect/ ... +bull+bars" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

australian design rules application

As discussed above, the bull-bar standard, as well as Victorian roadworthiness regulations, require vehicles to continue to comply with all applicable ADRs. There are three occupant protection crash tests listed in the ADRs.

RACV recommends motorists who decide to purchase a bull-bar ask the distributor for a guarantee that the fitting of their product will not result in non-compliance with any relevant ADRs. This is particularly important if your vehicle is fitted with an airbag.

To find out which of the occupant protection ADRs your vehicle must comply with, read below.
ADR 69: full frontal impact occupant protection

Applies to :

All new model passenger cars sold from 1 July 1995 and 1 Jan 1996 for all new passenger cars.
All new off-road passenger and forward control passenger vehicles from 1 Jan 2000 (and all new models from 1 Jan 1998)

ADR 72: dynamic side impact occupant protection

Applies to :

All new passenger cars sold from 1 Jan 2004 (and all new models from 1 Jan 1999)
All off-road passenger and forward control vehicles from 1 Jan 2004(and all new models from 1 Jan 2000)

ADR 73: offset frontal impact protection

Applies to :

All new passenger cars (with a gross mass less than 2.5 tonnes) sold from 1 Jan 2004 (and all new models from 1 Jan 2000)
It does not apply to off-road passenger or forward control vehicles.

So am I right in thinking that being a 93 model landcruiser I dont have to worry about limitations as most specifications are only for post 95 model vehicles? Anyone had any experience in this?

It has to be tilted back to not push stuff "under the vehicle" .. thats about as much as I know.

[dogbreath_48]

If it doesnt have airbags you're basically good to go, Just have it follow the profile of the car with no sharp edges and no stinger bar!

[mkpatrol]

Those ADR's are pretty well not apliccable to most large 4WD's. ADR69 is for M & N category vehicles up to 2.7 tonnes GVM. ADR 72 or 73, I cant remember which has to have a seating reference point lower than 700mm & I will have to look at the rest.

I will get back to you tomorrow.

[brooksy]

If it doesnt have airbags you're basically good to go, Just have it follow the profile of the car with no sharp edges and no stinger bar!

In a nutshell, this ^^^^^




brooksy

[stilivn]

Thanks guys, bit of a bummer as was looking at a small stinger that didn't go above the height of the bonnet. What's the ruling on windscreen bar? Guessing no but can't really find any specifics.

[stilivn]

Might have to give the rta a call as everything I find is to do with attachments to a bull bar eg lights, ariel etc.

[DUDELUX]

Thanks guys, bit of a bummer as was looking at a small stinger that didn't go above the height of the bonnet. What's the ruling on windscreen bar? Guessing no but can't really find any specifics.

I spoke to Athol up in Newy sometime last year, to get some advice on building an exo for the Lux. He said as long as its not in your way, and you can still see everything outside the car, A/B/C pillars are fine, same with the bar at the bottom of the windscreen.
I was going to make mine removable, weld some tabs each side, and have it bolt in, so I can take it out if I need to.

[mkpatrol]

OK, ADR69 is apliccable to all MC category vehicles and NA up to 2.7 tonnes so you may have problems there if your vehicle is MC.
ADR72 is apliccable to all MC category vehicles and NA which have a R point of less than 700mm.
ADR73 is apliccable to all MA category vehicles, passenger cars that are not designed for off road operation.

Contrary to popular belief, air bags are not mandatory in vehicles. These tests are about minimising the damage to a person in an accident and air bags are the easiest way to do it (this is a very simplified description).

Also, the fitment of airbags in vehicles not required by law to meet these occupant protection rules is purely market driven. People will buy vehicles that are percieved to be safer rather than vehicles that are not. Side airbags are a prime example of this.