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toyota diffs for my RRC

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toyota diffs for my RRC

Post by nat p »

hay hay,
I want to convert my rangie to toyota diffs, any recommendations, like which series to run. any pit falls???

Cheers NAT
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Re: toyota diffs for my RRC

Post by lotusfrontera »

Theres a guy over here in England who has put Toyota axles on his Range rover, apparently its not to hard to do. Don`t know of any pit falls, but on the plus side he now has locking diffs :) I can try and find out more if you like?
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Post by nat p »

that would be great! i want to go this way so i get the strength and stud pattern.

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Re: toyota diffs for my RRC

Post by pdd1098 »

Hi Nat
80 series front and rear.
You just grind off all the Toy mounts then either fabricate new mounts or carefully cut off your old Rover ones.
New is better as you can go stronger and copy all the positions off the Rover ones.
If you are not a competent welder find one :)
80 series bits turn up on Ebay and forums with lockers now and then...usually after they just rolled their rig :D
Maggot on AULRO has done it years ago :armsup:
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Post by lotusfrontera »

pdd1098 wrote:Hi Nat
80 series front and rear.
You just grind off all the Toy mounts then either fabricate new mounts or carefully cut off your old Rover ones.
New is better as you can go stronger and copy all the positions off the Rover ones.
If you are not a competent welder find one :)
80 series bits turn up on Ebay and forums with lockers now and then...usually after they just rolled their rig :D
Maggot on AULRO has done it years ago :armsup:
Dave

There you go, its been answered. the conversion is getting a little common over here.
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Post by 6.5 rangie »

I know where there are some toy converted diffs with 4.1 gears and arb lockers front and rear, think he wants about $3k.
These are toyota converted diffs not toyota diffs
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Re: toyota diffs for my RRC

Post by pdd1098 »

nat p wrote:hay hay,
I want to convert my rangie to toyota diffs, any recommendations, like which series to run. any pit falls???

Cheers NAT
Could I pursuade you to stay loyal to Rover....smaller housing = better clearance.

Oh and by the way I have a sick setup for sale on AULRO see driveline components for sale Maxidrive heaven there :D

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Post by V8 Rangie »

I would stick with the rover diffs. Axles are cheap and easy to get these days. No hassles with engineering and mod plates. Been there before with fitting Patrol front and and 80 series rear. Wish I never bothered as engineering and fab costs were way too much. I should have bought maxi drive.

Just bought another 1994 and doing it easy this time.. Hytuff axles and air locker being fitted as we speak :armsup:

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Post by pdd1098 »

V8 Rangie wrote:I would stick with the rover diffs. Axles are cheap and easy to get these days. No hassles with engineering and mod plates. Been there before with fitting Patrol front and and 80 series rear. Wish I never bothered as engineering and fab costs were way too much. I should have bought maxi drive.

Just bought another 1994 and doing it easy this time.. Hytuff axles and air locker being fitted as we speak :armsup:

Camo
Just out of interest how much all up for the locker and Hytuff install?
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Re: toyota diffs for my RRC

Post by V8 Rangie »

Will end up being 4k for both diffs with lockers.

The diff conversion is way more. for 2 good diffs 1.5k-2k, 2k for lockers, 1k fab work cost, 1k for 2 custom drive shafts (still vibration prob, even with landcruiser rear), 1k for engineering+mod plate, plus time wasted getting all this sorted when you are missing out on weekend 4x4 trips! Thats nearly 7k....pass

I'd stick with rover diffs anyday or if you are real keen, do toy conversion on the rover diff.
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Post by pdd1098 »

That makes my Maxi setup disc to disc both ends and Cromo CV's a bargain at $3k!
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Post by Petes »

pdd1098 wrote:That makes my Maxi setup disc to disc both ends and Cromo CV's a bargain at $3k!
Dave
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Apart from the fact that the spares availability for the lockers is poor (early) to non existant..(late)

My choice nowdays would be Ashcroft lockers, ashcroft rear axles, Rovertracks front axles and cvs, with ashcroft Cw+p's if required.

Thats the best option in my mind if you are runnning 35's or maybe even 37's

Ive seen too many broken toyota centres in rover housings to make it seem worth while to me. I mean one of them was Sams and he wheels mostly on the end of a winch rope :finger:

WRT to rear axles I run Hytuff's and while I haven't yet broken one I am not 100% happy with them.,... even with oil fed wheel bearings and plenty of oil getting to them they are fretting.
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Post by def90 »

wowsers, thanks pete!! :rofl:
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Post by uninformed »

hi Pete,

what do you mean by "fretting"?
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Post by V8 Rangie »

x2

what is fretting?
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Post by Petes »

I may be using the wrong term, but i understand it as the wearing of the splines. ie them becoming lose.

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Post by uninformed »

thanks Pete,

how are you checking this??? I wonder if its the axle or actually the flange....either way not so good hey.
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Post by GRIMACE »

Petes wrote:Ive seen too many broken toyota centres in rover housings to make it seem worth while to me. I mean one of them was Sams and he wheels mostly on the end of a winch rope :finger:

BURN!!! :D
FKNLOL

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Re: toyota diffs for my RRC

Post by Hobie18 »

At least with the early ie 28 spline maxidrives, spares are still available. Hytuff had axles and the side gears are holden 1 tonne. The side gears in the later 24 spline centres I don't think are available any longer unless M R Auto has made new ones or someone else has started manufacturing them again. This seems to be a problem with the later units.
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