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4 runner engine swap

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4 runner engine swap

Post by gutlux »

i have a 84 4 runner 2.4 diesel, and it is a slow ass peice of shyte.
i would like to put a new engine in it and am looking for some advice on what i should put in

could any one give me some advice on what my options are for putting in to give it some more grunt, and approx $$$$$?


would be appreciated
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Post by toysuzi »

if ur keeping it diesel id go a sufr 3.0l turbo around 100kw

ur engine puts out 56kw @ 4200 160nm @ 2400

if ur wanting petrol id go the 4.0l all alloy v8 toyota you can pick up engine packs (engine comp + wire harness) from around $2000.00

4litre 1uz-fe 191kw @ 5400rpm / 353nm @ 4600rpm

4litre 1uz-fe vvti 206 @ 6000rpm / 402nm @ 4000rpm

4.2litre 3uz-fe vvti 206kw @ 5600rpm / 430nm @ 3400rpm

landcruser 4.7litre 173kw @ 5600rpm / 422nm @ 3600

5.0l 1gz-fe vvti 206kw @ 5200rpm / 481nm @ 4000rpm

vn v6 125kw / vp 127kw / vr 130kw later 132kw/ vs ecotec 147kw


id say the toyota v8 is the go.if going petrol just look at the specs.

hope that helps u out. & good luck
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Post by MissDrew »

How much $$$$$ do you want to spend?

No point even thinking about a 1UZ-FE if you don`t want to spend that sort of money.
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Post by bubs »

Guts wrote:How much $$$$$ do you want to spend?

No point even thinking about a 1UZ-FE if you don`t want to spend that sort of money.


exactly $'s will determine the best swap for you

me its a 1UZ-FE, with aftermarket computer and a few extras :twisted:
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Post by Rorza »

where would you get the V8 toyota for $2 grand? second hand? what is it out of?
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Post by bubs »

Rorza wrote:where would you get the V8 toyota for $2 grand? second hand? what is it out of?


any jap importer - you can get half cuts from 1500 to 2500
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Post by dumbdunce »

hom many km on your 2.4? is it in good condition? simplest power up is to turbo the 2.4 but it still won't make it a ball tearing power machine - butit's cheap and easy. can get turbo kits from wreckers more or less complete for under $1000.
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Post by Skip »

Rorza wrote:where would you get the V8 toyota for $2 grand? second hand? what is it out of?


The 1UZ is found in Crowns, Celsiors and Soarers. There are probably more cars they were used.
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Re: 4 runner engine swap

Post by Guy »

gutlux wrote:i have a 84 4 runner 2.4 diesel, and it is a slow ass peice of shyte.
i would like to put a new engine in it and am looking for some advice on what i should put in

could any one give me some advice on what my options are for putting in to give it some more grunt, and approx $$$$$?


would be appreciated


How much do you want for the diesal when your done with it ??
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Post by gutlux »

well i dont want to spend more than 4 or 5 g all up, but dunno if this is possible. if i went with the toyota v8 and did most of it my self, how much am i looking at.

the 2.4 was rebuilt about 40 k ago.

how much difference is a turbo going to make??


and thanks for all your replies
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Post by Daisy »

gutlux wrote:well i dont want to spend more than 4 or 5 g all up, but dunno if this is possible. if i went with the toyota v8 and did most of it my self, how much am i looking at.

the 2.4 was rebuilt about 40 k ago.

how much difference is a turbo going to make??


and thanks for all your replies


Turbo will make a significiant diference...

BUT surely you dont wanna resist temptation to go a more powerful engine such as a toyota v8 or the cheaper option - commodore v6 efi ??

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Post by Hybrid »

Im doing the v6 at the moment. I was talking to a guy recently that does these using all Marks adapter gear for 5 grand flat including the engine. This is in Brisbane though. PM me if ya interested.

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Post by suprasurf »

Hybrid wrote:Im doing the v6 at the moment. I was talking to a guy recently that does these using all Marks adapter gear for 5 grand flat including the engine. This is in Brisbane though. PM me if ya interested.

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5 grand = supra + lockers + tyres :cool:
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Post by gutlux »

please expain supra surf
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Post by suprasurf »

I think the BBS needs a Lux engine swap sticky :)

I always end up harping on about the Supra swap whenever someone is looking to power up a Lux.

For bugga all $$$ you can drop a 5M (2.8) or 7M (3.0) straight 6 into a Lux. Because the old Supras are cheap to buy and the motor bolts straight up to the Lux box you can get one in the hole for under $1000 including engine !

Do some searching for 5M ( or 5M-GE ) 4runner swaps and you should get the info you need. Also research other options, V6 Commo and 1UZ and both good swaps.
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Post by gutlux »

do you have any specs on these motors?


is it what you have in yours??
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Post by Hybrid »

Yeah I know SS. If i had looked into the supra swap before i started the v6 I woulda gone the 7M for sure. I just brought up the 5k job because thats the cheapest I have seen for a v6 commo swap. Others I looked at were 8-10k if i remember correctly.

Hey gut someone was asking about the 7MGE and supra swap just a couple of weeks ago and I put up some links to ones already done (5MG and 7MG). Just run a search and you should turn the thread up. If all else fails look back a couple of pages. :)

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Post by MissDrew »

1UZ-FE cost me $1900 by the time it was here and the adaptor is going to cost me $1400, then I`ll make some engine mounts and have exhaust and engineers to pay for.
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Post by killalux »

hey supra,
how does the 7M go for torque done at low revs, and wat is it like in water.
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Post by bj56 »

guy at work is selling his supra complet 84 mod v6 (2.8) runing and driving a bit tierd but its a complet car 1800 bux
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Post by suprasurf »

Use the search :)

5M-GE BHP = 160@5200 max T= 155@4400

7M-GE BHP = 199@6000 Max T = 188@3600
7M-GTE BHP = 236@5600 Max T = 253@3200


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Post by suprasurf »

bj56 wrote:guy at work is selling his supra complet 84 mod v6 (2.8) runing and driving a bit tierd but its a complet car 1800 bux


Um, there never was a Supra wth a V6.
1984 model is the 5M-GE straight 6.
$1800 is a bit steep, would expect to pay $500 - $1000 for a manual one. :cool:
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my whole truck only owes me $9000. That's engineered and registered.
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Post by gutlux »

thanks to every body for your assistance


i think i am gonna go with the 7m, turbo if i can find one. from what i can gather it will bolt straight onto the gearbox , will i need to make new mounts?

the electrics and fuel, etc i can work out later but i am gathering from what everyone has said it is pretty much just a straight swap. am i correct in this assumption.

i also gather i will need to get a half cut or a whole car so all the wiring comes with it. is correct??

and finally anyone know a good place to get one around sydney???


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Post by tomsoffroad »

suprasurf's on to it.
I had the same problem with my 84 surf, meet mike, made the desision.
84 Celica = 1g-geu (2ltr 6cyl 24valve) $600nz
1g-geu wiring diagram = $40nz
misc parts = $80nz
Total $720nz
Bits sold = 2lt diesel $500
turbo $100
celica gearbox $250
Total $850 its good to be payed to work on your truck
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Post by CRWLNLUX »

I am currently putting a 1uzfe into my 1993 surf. I bought the 1uz for $2000 in a half cut. The V8 bolted straight to the original hilux gearbox which is the auto (A343F) which was a suprise. I trial fitted the motor the motor on the weekend and found that the back right of the sump hit on the front diff, otherwise everything is fits well. I plan to either modify the sump or install a 4inch ifs lift kit which drops the front diff. Or do a solid axle conversion which would solve all problems.

I currently have a 2.4 Turbo diesel (2L-TE) for sale which has a reconditioned turbo and Aftermarket head wich was worth $1600 new. I will seperate the turbo/manifolds and everything else associated or you can have the whole motor. Motor comes with loom and computer etc. Make and offer if you are interested.
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Post by ORSM45 »

go to a jap import place. this ones in sydney but pretty much the same everywhere.

http://www.sssautomotive.com.au/Toyota.htm

from that site
7M-GE = 1100
7M-GTE = 1400
1jz = 1500
2jz = 1500
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Post by NICK »

CRWLNLUX wrote: Aftermarket head wich was worth $1600 new.



what is special about it to make it 1600 worth?


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