Snorkel Tips

Post by **bigsteve** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 8:36 am

Hi All,

Thinking of knocking up a snorkel for my zook but with a tip that will not snag on anything.

The Jeep that one last years Outback Challenge and this one below are what I am thinking.

Anybody know what type/brand/source & $$$ it is??

Steve

Post by **grimbo** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 9:05 am

what about the new ones that are on the GU snorkels. they sit flush to the windscreen. You easily make your own. use 3" pipe cap the end and drill a shit load of holes at the top to let the air in. Nice and compact, strong and can't get nicked which i have had a problem with

Post by **bogged** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 9:23 am

you could use a right angle piece of pipe, they usually only just change the direction but dont protrude... Look at a plumbing supply joint.

Post by **bigsteve** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 9:24 am

Thanks Graham theres an Idea, What wall thickness is your pipe???

Bogged - Will be using steel pipe

Post by **grimbo** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 10:39 am

don't know the thickness but it is plenty strong, used it a couple of times to hold the weight of the body when I've lent it over too far on glenburn track :roll:

Post by **bogged** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 10:42 am

bigsteve wrote:Thanks theres an Idea, What wall thickness is your pipe???

Im using a Safari on mine...

Just the thickest light shiat (it all should be being plastic) and what size you require. Take a look at all their sizes, I think safari is around 85-95mm for GQ 4.2

Post by **greg** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 10:45 am

Just punch it through the fire wall big steve

Put the intake up under the dash - if water get's that deep in the cab i think you'll have bigger issues to think about then the engine getting water in it...

Check out Critter - that's what Mock and Steve did there... And so long as you keep the air intake going through the air box first, it shouldn't be too noisey (unlike what mine was :cry:

).

Cheers

Post by **N*A*M** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 10:59 am

if i did my snorkel again, it would be though the firewall

save money and listen to your engine sing

Post by **bigsteve** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 12:20 pm

greg wrote:Just punch it through the fire wall big steve

Put the intake up under the dash - if water get's that deep in the cab i think you'll have bigger issues to think about then the engine getting water in it...

Check out Critter - that's what Mock and Steve did there... And so long as you keep the air intake going through the air box first, it shouldn't be too noisey (unlike what mine was ).

Cheers

I have considered this but I think a hole in the firewall will seriously hinder the resale value of my vehicle.

Post by **greg** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 12:46 pm

bigsteve wrote:I have considered this but I think a hole in the firewall will seriously hinder the resale value of my vehicle.

Jeez mate - you are a funny one

Post by **grimbo** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 12:51 pm

mmmmm backfiring in the cab :oops:

I'd suggest a snorkel over the incab type considering you do use it as a daily driver, the noise will get unbearable after a few short trips

Post by **greg** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 1:07 pm

grimbo wrote:mmmmm backfiring in the cab I'd suggest a snorkel over the incab type considering you do use it as a daily driver, the noise will get unbearable after a few short trips

Sounds like a new measure of "hardcore" big steve...

reckon you'd better go twin snorkels through the fire wall to really show us

On a more serious note: I recall hearing that the whole back wire through the snorkel was the equivillent of an old wives tale and never actually happens?

particularly in high performance vehicles like sierras

Post by **bigsteve** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 1:08 pm

Greg - You know me to well

Graham,

Can you post that pic of yoour snorkel with the bonnet up.
I used to have it but have lost it.

Steve

Post by **bigsteve** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 1:12 pm

greg wrote:
grimbo wrote:mmmmm backfiring in the cab I'd suggest a snorkel over the incab type considering you do use it as a daily driver, the noise will get unbearable after a few short trips

Sounds like a new measure of "hardcore" big steve...

reckon you'd better go twin snorkels through the fire wall to really show us

On a more serious note: I recall hearing that the whole back wire through the snorkel was the equivillent of an old wives tale and never actually happens? particularly in high performance vehicles like sierras

I have never seen a regularly tuned siera 1.3 back fire, the problem i find is stopping the flames shooting out the exaust.

Post by **greg** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 1:18 pm

Big Steve,

Pop the bonnet and replace the hose that comes out of the air box and goes behind the battery... Run the hose out from under the bonnet and into the cab via the window... zip tie it into place (with at least 80 or so zip ties for good measure)... Drive it like that for a day to see just how loud it is going to be - that'd be a smart way to do it i reckon...

If it's not bad enough to worry about, just replace the pourous hose (that goes to behind the battery) with a plastic one, and use a hole saw to cut through the firewall near next to the battery. That'd be the easiest place to put your air intake so long as you miss the fuse box and other stuff under there...

Alternately, if you want to get really cleaver and don't want the intake inside your car - hole saw the same spot as mentioned above, then cut another hole in the cowl between the windscreen and the bonet... Put your snorkel head ontop of the cowl, and then bend some flexi hose between the hole in the cowl and the hole in the firewall, and still replace that hose that goes to behind the battery with a plastic one...

That will at least mean you can see where the intake is going to be, then you can just have an extension of hose in the car to attach where the snorkel head will sit for when you are doing deep crossings (ala American Top Truck styling, and Mock's vitara style too)...

Either way - remember to remove the warm air hose that comes from where your exhaust manifold is - otherwise you will suck water in there.

Post by **bigsteve** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 1:28 pm

greg wrote:Big Steve,

Pop the bonnet and replace the hose that comes out of the air box and goes behind the battery... Run the hose out from under the bonnet and into the cab via the window... zip tie it into place (with at least 80 or so zip ties for good measure)... Drive it like that for a day to see just how loud it is going to be - that'd be a smart way to do it i reckon...

If it's not bad enough to worry about, just replace the pourous hose (that goes to behind the battery) with a plastic one, and use a hole saw to cut through the firewall near next to the battery. That'd be the easiest place to put your air intake so long as you miss the fuse box and other stuff under there...

Alternately, if you want to get really cleaver and don't want the intake inside your car - hole saw the same spot as mentioned above, then cut another hole in the cowl between the windscreen and the bonet... Put your snorkel head ontop of the cowl, and then bend some flexi hose between the hole in the cowl and the hole in the firewall, and still replace that hose that goes to behind the battery with a plastic one...

That will at least mean you can see where the intake is going to be, then you can just have an extension of hose in the car to attach where the snorkel head will sit for when you are doing deep crossings (ala American Top Truck styling, and Mock's vitara style too)...

Either way - remember to remove the warm air hose that comes from where your exhaust manifold is - otherwise you will suck water in there.

I think we have digressed ever so slightly, my minds made up on mounting the snorkel outside I more need to figure out a tip that will not snag on anything.

Post by **greg** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 1:47 pm

bigsteve wrote:I think we have digressed ever so slightly, my minds made up on mounting the snorkel outside I more need to figure out a tip that will not snag on anything.

**cough:SOFT!!!:cough**

Post by **grimbo** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 1:51 pm

Greg my engine backfires like Chris at a club meeting and has managed to backfire up the snorkel on a couple of occasions-scared the hell out of me :shock:

Steve here is the pic please enjoy and ignore greg's childish banter

Post by **bigsteve** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 1:53 pm

grimbo wrote:Greg my engine backfires like Chris at a club meeting and has managed to backfire up the snorkel on a couple of occasions-scared the hell out of me

Steve here is the pic please enjoy and ignore greg's childish banter

Thanks mate, Greg IS being childish.

I'm hard where it counts.

Post by **greg** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 1:57 pm

I still think that the ultimate place to run it (to avoid snagging it on things) would be through the fire wall, and then up through the cowl... That way it would stay within the outer demesions on the vehicle and would be impossible to rip off (unless you were sliding down a hill on your roof)...

Post by **bigsteve** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 2:06 pm

Agreed, but I am still running a standard 1.3 with 200,000 + km's on it. It will not last forever (It'll probably out last the body) so I dont know what I would put in next, the external snorkel suits this as I am only taking a nick out of the bonnet (AKA graham and Joey) so if I fit a different engine and need to move things its just a bonnet.

Post by **grimbo** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 2:08 pm

which is why Damian would never get a snorkle

Post by **bigsteve** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 2:09 pm

grimbo wrote:which is why Damian would never get a snorkle

Nah I thionk he just likes murdering 1.0's

Post by **muppet_man67** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 5:05 pm

it wouldnt work to just turn the tip of the snorkal backwards would it?

Post by **droopypete** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 9:20 pm

grimbo wrote:what about the new ones that are on the GU snorkels. they sit flush to the windscreen. You easily make your own. use 3" pipe cap the end and drill a shit load of holes at the top to let the air in. Nice and compact, strong and can't get nicked which i have had a problem with

The nerve of some people, to break into a guys shed and move all the junk off his car, disturb his favorite dust and steal his snorkel tip!
I just don't know what the world is comming to :cry:

Peter.

Post by **bogged** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 10:03 pm

what about running pipe over the roof, and having opening where the rear window is?? Well and truly out of the way, and not going to get snagged either.. clean air, and no water...

just a thought

Post by **turps** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 10:09 pm

Could always get something made up similar to the factory snorkels on GQ's. The opening was above the passenger side door (halway between A and B pillars). Will try and find a pic.

Post by **Guy** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 4:08 pm

droopypete wrote:
grimbo wrote:what about the new ones that are on the GU snorkels. they sit flush to the windscreen. You easily make your own. use 3" pipe cap the end and drill a shit load of holes at the top to let the air in. Nice and compact, strong and can't get nicked which i have had a problem with

The nerve of some people, to break into a guys shed and move all the junk off his car, disturb his favorite dust and steal his snorkel tip!
I just don't know what the world is comming to
Peter.

I needed a snorkel tip... and I knew where I could find one guaranteed

Post by **stumped** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 4:27 pm

dunno if this is what graham was talkin 'bout, but if ya have a long cap over the pipe and drill holes into the inner pipe, ya should get plenty of air flow and it's stop rain and stuff coming in...

Post by **getdirty** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 5:27 pm

Could always do something like this..... just open pipe over the roof, weld in some mesh and your done...... you probably don't need a 4" one like this but you get the idea.....

Good thing about it is if you hit a branch it just slides straight over it....

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