Notice: We request that you don't just set up a new account at this time if you are a previous user.
If you used to be one of our moderators, please feel free to reach out to Chris via the facebook Outerlimits4x4 group and he will get you set back up with access should he need you.
Recovery:If you cannot access your old email address and don't remember your password, please click here to log a change of email address so you can do a password reset.

roll/bar rules

General Tech Talk

Moderators: toaddog, TWISTY, V8Patrol, Moderators

Post Reply
Posts: 459
Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:23 am

roll/bar rules

Post by old lux »

get guys had a search but cant seem to find what I m looking for. I m building my tray on my hilux and want to make the rollbars CCDA approved so if I ever comp it it'll be easier to considering I will have the rollbars already done.

I've read and looked at the pictures but it didn't answer my questions so

my question is the bars that come down from the top of the rollbar down to mount to the tray. how wide do they have to be? is there any rules or regulations?
also do they have to be straight or can I bend them to suit(make it look better and mould around toolbox(for styling purposes and to make it easier to remove my spare tyre???))

if I can figure out how to do pictures with drawings I will

regards Cohen
93 duel cab lux. 2.8 TD twin locked. Big tyres, little lift. Wide stance. Barwork and build up under way
Posts: 196
Joined: Mon May 31, 2010 4:43 pm
Location: sydney

Re: roll/bar rules

Post by 94lux »

Google.....ccda rollbar.....first topic.....
Old and rolled: 94 lux, 37's, air lockers f/r, high steer, ruf, ifs rears, widetracked, longs, duals
New: 90 4runner 80 series diffs, air lockers f/r, LS1, reduction gears, 35's, engineered
Posts: 196
Joined: Mon May 31, 2010 4:43 pm
Location: sydney

Re: roll/bar rules

Post by 94lux »

The stays can't be bent as it then becomes a weak spot
Old and rolled: 94 lux, 37's, air lockers f/r, high steer, ruf, ifs rears, widetracked, longs, duals
New: 90 4runner 80 series diffs, air lockers f/r, LS1, reduction gears, 35's, engineered
Posts: 196
Joined: Mon May 31, 2010 4:43 pm
Location: sydney

Re: roll/bar rules

Post by 94lux »

Stays have to be at a minimum of 30 degrees
(Stupid phone causing too many posts)
Old and rolled: 94 lux, 37's, air lockers f/r, high steer, ruf, ifs rears, widetracked, longs, duals
New: 90 4runner 80 series diffs, air lockers f/r, LS1, reduction gears, 35's, engineered
Posts: 459
Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:23 am

Re: roll/bar rules

Post by old lux »

cheers 94 lux. I didn't think the rollbars could be bent cause in te pic they were straight but I thought id ask.

ive seen that page that's where I figured out how I had to do it. but see in page 3 where its tray ounted rollbars. the posts that come back from the top I get they are a minimum of 30* but it doesn't say how wide they have to be (ie minimum 100mm from outside or maximum 500mm from outside)

as I want to mount them 450mm from the outside so I can mount toolboxes each side of the tray and still have my 35" tyre in the middle.
93 duel cab lux. 2.8 TD twin locked. Big tyres, little lift. Wide stance. Barwork and build up under way
Posts: 196
Joined: Mon May 31, 2010 4:43 pm
Location: sydney

Re: roll/bar rules

Post by 94lux »

Oh I see what you mean, I thought they had to stay as near to straight as possible. Also interested to find out this regulation. Maybe you should PM David metcalfe. His name on here is xtreme mmm I think
Old and rolled: 94 lux, 37's, air lockers f/r, high steer, ruf, ifs rears, widetracked, longs, duals
New: 90 4runner 80 series diffs, air lockers f/r, LS1, reduction gears, 35's, engineered
Posts: 2183
Joined: Sun Feb 27, 2005 4:15 pm
Location: newy

Re: roll/bar rules

Post by evanstaniland »

Read the word ruling not just the pictures. It says fairly clearly what is required for back stays
www.energizedracing.com
Support from:
Locktup 4x4
Arb Newcastle
Genr8 LED lighting
Yukon Gear & Axle
Overkill Engineering
Ruffstuff Specialties
Posts: 459
Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:23 am

Re: roll/bar rules

Post by old lux »

I don't see what you mean. Please explain. I've read it and asked a few people around and I seem to figure out what. Please answer if you know
93 duel cab lux. 2.8 TD twin locked. Big tyres, little lift. Wide stance. Barwork and build up under way
Posts: 99
Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:04 am
Location: Humpty Doo

Re: roll/bar rules

Post by 76 Tourer »

5.3.4 BACKSTAYS
Backstays shall be attached near the roofline and near the top outer bends of the main roll bar on both sides of the vehicle. They shall be at angle of at least 30 degrees with the vertical, shall run rearwards and be straight
Luck is when preparation meets opportunity
Posts: 459
Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:23 am

Re: roll/bar rules

Post by old lux »

SO AS FAR OUT AS POSSIABLE. cool. cheers I just wasn't sure. well because thwe design of my tray and cab i'll still hace roughly 450 from pipe to edge of tray so i'll still be able to mount my tool boxes. sweet :) ordering pipe this week coming hopefully shuld b here soon
93 duel cab lux. 2.8 TD twin locked. Big tyres, little lift. Wide stance. Barwork and build up under way
Posts: 246
Joined: Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:01 pm
Location: Ipswich

Re: roll/bar rules

Post by Narrowscopeofreality »

Don't forget the part about the material specs too. Pretty important
Posts: 459
Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:23 am

Re: roll/bar rules

Post by old lux »

yer I haven't borrowed some off 76 tourer and i'll replace it for him. using 44.45x2.6mm. cds.

but proberly going to order some on Monday when someone gets back to me with a price.

all should fit all should work.

HOPEFULLY
93 duel cab lux. 2.8 TD twin locked. Big tyres, little lift. Wide stance. Barwork and build up under way
Posts: 2183
Joined: Sun Feb 27, 2005 4:15 pm
Location: newy

Re: roll/bar rules

Post by evanstaniland »

You back stays have to be within 100mm of the top outside corners
www.energizedracing.com
Support from:
Locktup 4x4
Arb Newcastle
Genr8 LED lighting
Yukon Gear & Axle
Overkill Engineering
Ruffstuff Specialties
Posts: 459
Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:23 am

Re: roll/bar rules

Post by old lux »

yeh sweet that's good to hear, happy I made the tray so wide (1850) on a hilux, can still fit 400x1350 tool boxes on erach side of the tray
93 duel cab lux. 2.8 TD twin locked. Big tyres, little lift. Wide stance. Barwork and build up under way
Posts: 1113
Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2003 1:20 pm
Location: QLD

Re: roll/bar rules

Post by Skegbudley »

old lux wrote:SO AS FAR OUT AS POSSIABLE. cool. cheers I just wasn't sure. well because thwe design of my tray and cab i'll still hace roughly 450 from pipe to edge of tray so i'll still be able to mount my tool boxes. sweet :) ordering pipe this week coming hopefully shuld b here soon

I realy hope you mean tube. Not pipe. There is a big difference.
GU Patrol with go better bits added
Posts: 99
Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:04 am
Location: Humpty Doo

Re: roll/bar rules

Post by 76 Tourer »

Tis 1 3/4 CDW tube ....
Luck is when preparation meets opportunity
Posts: 1113
Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2003 1:20 pm
Location: QLD

Re: roll/bar rules

Post by Skegbudley »

76 Tourer wrote:Tis 1 3/4 CDW tube ....
Thats good then.
There are a heap of rigs currently getting new cages built because they were too cheap to do it with tube the first time and still want to compete.
GU Patrol with go better bits added
Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 51 guests