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Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd/24th Nov
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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd/24th Nov
Here is where entries are up to, there are entries on their way from Mitchell Bros & raymond terrace.
1 Steve Patten Paul Smith Nissan Patrol Daniel Short Gordon Short Landcruiser Bong Bong
2 Gordon Short Daniel Short Landcruiser Tracey Johnston Reece Warnecke 75 Series Bong Bong
3 Glenn Odlum Ross Davidson Range Rover Michael Tot Les Tot Sierra ACT ATC
4 Paul Monsuier Greg McDonald Toyota Hilux Alan Cox Andy Bates Toyota 40 series On All 4s
5 Shaun Clancy Adam Tyson Toyota Hilux Danny Peters Brett Gamble Toyota Hilux Lithgow 4wd
6 Paul Gamble Steve Quinn 80 Series Peter Jarvie Craig Schofield Hilux On All 4s
7 Scott Bailey Joshua Bailey Hilux Joshua Heather Chris Heather Hilux On All 4s
8 Shane Loder Dillon James Toyota Hilux Grant Feltham Matt Shield Ford Bronco Blue Mountains
9 David Luke Nathan McGode Range Rover Charles Bottemann Steven Grima Range Rover AT4
10 Marshall Bell Don Bell Nissan Patrol Steven Juarez Michael Bennett Toyota 105 Serie Shellharbour 4wd Club
11 Chris Tierney Peter Sayers Toyota Hilux Mark Borg Jason Borg Hilux Kamikaze
12 Michael Barrett Thomas Barrett Nissan Patrol Wayne Rumble John Adamson Hilux Brindabellas
13 Matt Diamond James Walsh 60 Series Dave Tucker Kevin Willis CJ5 Jeep Dubbo 4wd
14 Hamish Hudson Rick Sammons Suzuki Vitara Andrew Stanton Troy Bolton Suzuki Vitara ACT ATC
15 Jason Catanzarti Michael Catanzariti GQ Patrol Jason Brown Gerald Cornes GQ Patrol Brindabellas
16 Kurt Scheldrick Chase Berry 45 series Robert Biddle Luke Harris Nissan Patrol Brindabellas
17 Paul Harris Dane Haigh Toyota Bunderra Steve Price Dean Sondergeld Toyota 40 series Locked In
18 Rob McKenzie Greg Finlay Suzuki Vitara Kane Jones Cameron Wilson Suzuki Vitara Brindabellas
19 Ziggy Koeck TBA Range Rover Chris Nash Matt Nash Range Rover Brindabellas
20 Andrew Gardiner Mark Peters Hilux Jason Hattenfels Robert Hattenfels Hilux Dubbo 4wd
21 Adam Walters Belinda Brayshaw Hilux John Duffy Jason Seward Hilux Northwest 4x4 Club
1 Steve Patten Paul Smith Nissan Patrol Daniel Short Gordon Short Landcruiser Bong Bong
2 Gordon Short Daniel Short Landcruiser Tracey Johnston Reece Warnecke 75 Series Bong Bong
3 Glenn Odlum Ross Davidson Range Rover Michael Tot Les Tot Sierra ACT ATC
4 Paul Monsuier Greg McDonald Toyota Hilux Alan Cox Andy Bates Toyota 40 series On All 4s
5 Shaun Clancy Adam Tyson Toyota Hilux Danny Peters Brett Gamble Toyota Hilux Lithgow 4wd
6 Paul Gamble Steve Quinn 80 Series Peter Jarvie Craig Schofield Hilux On All 4s
7 Scott Bailey Joshua Bailey Hilux Joshua Heather Chris Heather Hilux On All 4s
8 Shane Loder Dillon James Toyota Hilux Grant Feltham Matt Shield Ford Bronco Blue Mountains
9 David Luke Nathan McGode Range Rover Charles Bottemann Steven Grima Range Rover AT4
10 Marshall Bell Don Bell Nissan Patrol Steven Juarez Michael Bennett Toyota 105 Serie Shellharbour 4wd Club
11 Chris Tierney Peter Sayers Toyota Hilux Mark Borg Jason Borg Hilux Kamikaze
12 Michael Barrett Thomas Barrett Nissan Patrol Wayne Rumble John Adamson Hilux Brindabellas
13 Matt Diamond James Walsh 60 Series Dave Tucker Kevin Willis CJ5 Jeep Dubbo 4wd
14 Hamish Hudson Rick Sammons Suzuki Vitara Andrew Stanton Troy Bolton Suzuki Vitara ACT ATC
15 Jason Catanzarti Michael Catanzariti GQ Patrol Jason Brown Gerald Cornes GQ Patrol Brindabellas
16 Kurt Scheldrick Chase Berry 45 series Robert Biddle Luke Harris Nissan Patrol Brindabellas
17 Paul Harris Dane Haigh Toyota Bunderra Steve Price Dean Sondergeld Toyota 40 series Locked In
18 Rob McKenzie Greg Finlay Suzuki Vitara Kane Jones Cameron Wilson Suzuki Vitara Brindabellas
19 Ziggy Koeck TBA Range Rover Chris Nash Matt Nash Range Rover Brindabellas
20 Andrew Gardiner Mark Peters Hilux Jason Hattenfels Robert Hattenfels Hilux Dubbo 4wd
21 Adam Walters Belinda Brayshaw Hilux John Duffy Jason Seward Hilux Northwest 4x4 Club
Mixed Up Patrol Supercharged V6, A frame Front custom 18" Racerunner Air Shocks
> A-Frame with height adjustable hydraulic suspension transverse 18" racerunners portals and 4ws
> A-Frame with height adjustable hydraulic suspension transverse 18" racerunners portals and 4ws
Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd/24th Nov
There was also a second team from Kamikaze John Panetta and Jason Seidl with our entry.
Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd/24th Nov
Oooops, I have been a little too busy.
1 Steve Patten Paul Smith Nissan Patrol Daniel Short Gordon Short Landcruiser Bong Bong
2 Gordon Short Daniel Short Landcruiser Tracey Johnston Reece Warnecke 75 Series Bong Bong
3 Glenn Odlum Ross Davidson Range Rover Michael Tot Les Tot Sierra ACT ATC
4 Paul Monsuier Greg McDonald Toyota Hilux Alan Cox Andy Bates Toyota 40 series On All 4s
5 Shaun Clancy Adam Tyson Toyota Hilux Danny Peters Brett Gamble Toyota Hilux Lithgow 4wd
6 Paul Gamble Steve Quinn 80 Series Peter Jarvie Craig Schofield Hilux On All 4s
7 Scott Bailey Joshua Bailey Hilux Joshua Heather Chris Heather Hilux On All 4s
8 Shane Loder Dillon James Toyota Hilux Grant Feltham Matt Shield Ford Bronco Blue Mountains
9 David Luke Nathan McGode Range Rover Charles Bottemann Steven Grima Range Rover AT4
10 Marshall Bell Don Bell Nissan Patrol Steven Juarez Michael Bennett Toyota 105 Serie Shellharbour 4wd Club
11 Chris Tierney Peter Sayers Toyota Hilux Mark Borg Jason Borg Hilux Kamikaze
12 Michael Barrett Thomas Barrett Nissan Patrol Wayne Rumble John Adamson Hilux Brindabellas
13 Matt Diamond James Walsh 60 Series Dave Tucker Kevin Willis CJ5 Jeep Dubbo 4wd
14 Hamish Hudson Rick Sammons Suzuki Vitara Andrew Stanton Troy Bolton Suzuki Vitara ACT ATC
15 Jason Catanzarti Michael Catanzariti GQ Patrol Jason Brown Gerald Cornes GQ Patrol Brindabellas
16 Kurt Scheldrick Chase Berry 45 series Robert Biddle Luke Harris Nissan Patrol Brindabellas
17 Paul Harris Dane Haigh Toyota Bunderra Steve Price Dean Sondergeld Toyota 40 series Locked In
18 Rob McKenzie Greg Finlay Suzuki Vitara Kane Jones Cameron Wilson Suzuki Vitara Brindabellas
19 Ziggy Koeck TBA Range Rover Chris Nash Matt Nash Range Rover Brindabellas
20 Andrew Gardiner Mark Peters Hilux Jason Hattenfels Robert Hattenfels Hilux Dubbo 4wd
21 Adam Walters Belinda Brayshaw Hilux John Duffy Jason Seward Hilux Northwest 4x4 Club
22 John Panetta Mark Panetta Fridge Jason Seidl Shannon Piggin Ford Maverick Kamikaze
1 Steve Patten Paul Smith Nissan Patrol Daniel Short Gordon Short Landcruiser Bong Bong
2 Gordon Short Daniel Short Landcruiser Tracey Johnston Reece Warnecke 75 Series Bong Bong
3 Glenn Odlum Ross Davidson Range Rover Michael Tot Les Tot Sierra ACT ATC
4 Paul Monsuier Greg McDonald Toyota Hilux Alan Cox Andy Bates Toyota 40 series On All 4s
5 Shaun Clancy Adam Tyson Toyota Hilux Danny Peters Brett Gamble Toyota Hilux Lithgow 4wd
6 Paul Gamble Steve Quinn 80 Series Peter Jarvie Craig Schofield Hilux On All 4s
7 Scott Bailey Joshua Bailey Hilux Joshua Heather Chris Heather Hilux On All 4s
8 Shane Loder Dillon James Toyota Hilux Grant Feltham Matt Shield Ford Bronco Blue Mountains
9 David Luke Nathan McGode Range Rover Charles Bottemann Steven Grima Range Rover AT4
10 Marshall Bell Don Bell Nissan Patrol Steven Juarez Michael Bennett Toyota 105 Serie Shellharbour 4wd Club
11 Chris Tierney Peter Sayers Toyota Hilux Mark Borg Jason Borg Hilux Kamikaze
12 Michael Barrett Thomas Barrett Nissan Patrol Wayne Rumble John Adamson Hilux Brindabellas
13 Matt Diamond James Walsh 60 Series Dave Tucker Kevin Willis CJ5 Jeep Dubbo 4wd
14 Hamish Hudson Rick Sammons Suzuki Vitara Andrew Stanton Troy Bolton Suzuki Vitara ACT ATC
15 Jason Catanzarti Michael Catanzariti GQ Patrol Jason Brown Gerald Cornes GQ Patrol Brindabellas
16 Kurt Scheldrick Chase Berry 45 series Robert Biddle Luke Harris Nissan Patrol Brindabellas
17 Paul Harris Dane Haigh Toyota Bunderra Steve Price Dean Sondergeld Toyota 40 series Locked In
18 Rob McKenzie Greg Finlay Suzuki Vitara Kane Jones Cameron Wilson Suzuki Vitara Brindabellas
19 Ziggy Koeck TBA Range Rover Chris Nash Matt Nash Range Rover Brindabellas
20 Andrew Gardiner Mark Peters Hilux Jason Hattenfels Robert Hattenfels Hilux Dubbo 4wd
21 Adam Walters Belinda Brayshaw Hilux John Duffy Jason Seward Hilux Northwest 4x4 Club
22 John Panetta Mark Panetta Fridge Jason Seidl Shannon Piggin Ford Maverick Kamikaze
Mixed Up Patrol Supercharged V6, A frame Front custom 18" Racerunner Air Shocks
> A-Frame with height adjustable hydraulic suspension transverse 18" racerunners portals and 4ws
> A-Frame with height adjustable hydraulic suspension transverse 18" racerunners portals and 4ws
Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd/24th Nov
Didn't relise there was such a car as a Fridge I thought it was a 80 series landcruiser haha
Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd/24th Nov
I heard he spent $20000 on chopping it into a ute! He has a different navi this year, hopefully he won't be as shit as the one from last year!
Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd/24th Nov
Nah I think it was about $30k. And the navi wasn't that shit, it was his first time with the fridge! I'd be keeping an eye on team 21 too! They look like they would be a pair of trouble makers! Just sayin'
if it has tit's, wheels or a motor you better have money
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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd/24th Nov
Here it is the lastest word regarding roll cages for this year sorry they have taken so long to get them sorted. If you have to start from scratch I suggest you build a cage that conforms exactly as per the ccda manual. These are the minimum requirements for Toperi 2013, meaning that you must have all of the components mentioned in supplementary rule #1.
Please take note of the other requirements as well. These are in addition to the Toperi rules outlined on the web page and sent though with your entry.
1. All vehicles must have a roll cage that covers the driver and navigator completely from “A” pillar to “B” pillar. The minimum wall thickness of pipe allowed is 2.5mm drawn tube or 32mm nb medium wall (3.2mm wall i.e. min od 38.4). 40mm nb pipe is the minimum for “B” pillar construction (44mm drawn tube recommended). The “B” pillar must be fixed to the chassis and have at least one cross brace, two forward stays fixed to the chassis. The “A” pillar must be attached to the chassis and have a brace between “A” pillars and at least one diagonal brace across the roof, preferably two. The roll cage must be at least 50mm above the heads of the driver and navigator with helmets on.
2. All vehicles must have a working park brake (Park in an automatic transmission is not acceptable).
3. All vehicles must have opening doors.
4. All vehicles must have window nets that cover at least 70% of side opening, and cannot deflect outwards more than 50mm.
5. All vehicles must have a windscreen.
6. All winches must be fitted with synthetic rope.
7. All recovery points must be located to enable a vertical lift.
8. Vehicle movements around the site are to be at 5km/h max (walking pace) (except for when on stage) and vehicle must not be moved for unessential reasons (i.e. driven around sightseeing etc.).
These rules aren't up for discussion, these are it.
Cheers
Glenn
Please take note of the other requirements as well. These are in addition to the Toperi rules outlined on the web page and sent though with your entry.
1. All vehicles must have a roll cage that covers the driver and navigator completely from “A” pillar to “B” pillar. The minimum wall thickness of pipe allowed is 2.5mm drawn tube or 32mm nb medium wall (3.2mm wall i.e. min od 38.4). 40mm nb pipe is the minimum for “B” pillar construction (44mm drawn tube recommended). The “B” pillar must be fixed to the chassis and have at least one cross brace, two forward stays fixed to the chassis. The “A” pillar must be attached to the chassis and have a brace between “A” pillars and at least one diagonal brace across the roof, preferably two. The roll cage must be at least 50mm above the heads of the driver and navigator with helmets on.
2. All vehicles must have a working park brake (Park in an automatic transmission is not acceptable).
3. All vehicles must have opening doors.
4. All vehicles must have window nets that cover at least 70% of side opening, and cannot deflect outwards more than 50mm.
5. All vehicles must have a windscreen.
6. All winches must be fitted with synthetic rope.
7. All recovery points must be located to enable a vertical lift.
8. Vehicle movements around the site are to be at 5km/h max (walking pace) (except for when on stage) and vehicle must not be moved for unessential reasons (i.e. driven around sightseeing etc.).
These rules aren't up for discussion, these are it.
Cheers
Glenn
Those who choose to drive in the mud do so because they can't drive the rocks.
Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd/24th Nov
Glen,
I know you say no discussion but in a CCDA cage, diagonal's in the roof are optional. Are they compulsory in a "toperi" cage?
I know you say no discussion but in a CCDA cage, diagonal's in the roof are optional. Are they compulsory in a "toperi" cage?
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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd/24th Nov
YEA 13B wrote:Glen,
I know you say no discussion but in a CCDA cage, diagonal's in the roof are optional. Are they compulsory in a "toperi" cage?
Hey Kurt
We will except gussits to prevent the cage from "diamonding" ( is that a word?) in addition to either bar/s runing north-south or east west.
Those who choose to drive in the mud do so because they can't drive the rocks.
Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd/24th Nov
Hey Glenn , Thanks for the update.the gun wrote:Here it is the lastest word regarding roll cages for this year sorry they have taken so long to get them sorted. If you have to start from scratch I suggest you build a cage that conforms exactly as per the ccda manual. These are the minimum requirements for Toperi 2013, meaning that you must have all of the components mentioned in supplementary rule #1.
Please take note of the other requirements as well. These are in addition to the Toperi rules outlined on the web page and sent though with your entry.
1. All vehicles must have a roll cage that covers the driver and navigator completely from “A” pillar to “B” pillar. The minimum wall thickness of pipe allowed is 2.5mm drawn tube or 32mm nb medium wall (3.2mm wall i.e. min od 38.4). 40mm nb pipe is the minimum for “B” pillar construction (44mm drawn tube recommended). The “B” pillar must be fixed to the chassis and have at least one cross brace, two forward stays fixed to the chassis. The “A” pillar must be attached to the chassis and have a brace between “A” pillars and at least one diagonal brace across the roof, preferably two. The roll cage must be at least 50mm above the heads of the driver and navigator with helmets on.
2. All vehicles must have a working park brake (Park in an automatic transmission is not acceptable).
3. All vehicles must have opening doors.
4. All vehicles must have window nets that cover at least 70% of side opening, and cannot deflect outwards more than 50mm.
5. All vehicles must have a windscreen.
6. All winches must be fitted with synthetic rope.
7. All recovery points must be located to enable a vertical lift.
8. Vehicle movements around the site are to be at 5km/h max (walking pace) (except for when on stage) and vehicle must not be moved for unessential reasons (i.e. driven around sightseeing etc.).
These rules aren't up for discussion, these are it.
Cheers
Glenn
I cant find any where in the CCDA Roll cage specifications regarding A & B Pillar of the roll cage must be attached to the chassis as you have outlined in section #1.
CCDA specifications allow for (5.3.3 Fixing of roll cages ,Option 1 each leg to be welded or bolted to the body shell using 3mm thick plates 15000mmsq plates and minimum M8 8.8 bolts.)
Can you please clarify this section for me.
I only ask because my chassis rails are at least 400mm from the outer edge of the cab where the cage is mounted to the floor
Thanks
Shady
Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd/24th Nov
Shady
The ccda roll cage plan ur looking at is for an internal cage. If that's what u want to build all good. If ur building an external cage u will then have to build out riggers from ur chassis to attach the exo cage but seeing that ur truck weighs as much as a kenworth they should be able to with stand the weight of ur truck if it all turns pear shaped.
The ccda roll cage plan ur looking at is for an internal cage. If that's what u want to build all good. If ur building an external cage u will then have to build out riggers from ur chassis to attach the exo cage but seeing that ur truck weighs as much as a kenworth they should be able to with stand the weight of ur truck if it all turns pear shaped.
Those who choose to drive in the mud do so because they can't drive the rocks.
Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd/24th Nov
Cool thanks for the clarification , I didn't see the exo cage mentioned.
Cant wait to get u there and mix it up again with you guys.
Cant wait to get u there and mix it up again with you guys.
Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd/24th Nov
Just to clarify the roll cage specs I ve posted above refer to an exo cage. The spec that are on the ccda webpage are for an interal cage. Either will pass Toperi scrutineering. The internal cage can b made from NB pipe.
Glenn.
Glenn.
Those who choose to drive in the mud do so because they can't drive the rocks.
Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd/24th Nov
Any news about if the teams event got approved cause nothing much has been said since single car event was mentioned??
Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd/24th Nov
Two car teams as per prevous years. We will be reverting back to a dnf time as per Tuff Truck with maxium points deciding the winner. If there is a draw for a place ei 1st -5th the tying teams will golden point for the position. One truck from each of the tied teams will start track 4. The winner will be the truck getting further along the course with no penalties.purana wrote:Any news about if the teams event got approved cause nothing much has been said since single car event was mentioned??
Those who choose to drive in the mud do so because they can't drive the rocks.
Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd/24th Nov
Does that mean after presentation if there's a draw someone will have to drive track 4 again?
Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd/24th Nov
Who from the club is best to send photos to to make sure our cage will be accepted?
cheers
cheers
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GU ute for the fun stuff
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GU ute for the fun stuff
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In need of a 2nd 4wd to team up with me. GU ute on 40s.
Im there to drive hard and smart and would prefer the same mindset from the 2nd driver. Im not there to crawl and spend 10 minutes on a stage. The red GU has done well in the past toperi events. Our team has already been accepted as 1st entry but now need a new teammate. Thanks steve....
The position has now been filled.
Im there to drive hard and smart and would prefer the same mindset from the 2nd driver. Im not there to crawl and spend 10 minutes on a stage. The red GU has done well in the past toperi events. Our team has already been accepted as 1st entry but now need a new teammate. Thanks steve....
The position has now been filled.
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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd/24th Nov
We will know the top ten teams that will b in the hunt for a podium finsh before the presention. A team tie hasn't happen yet. If a track has to b run again the two teams will b notified that they have tied it won't b told for what place.I'm gayer than aids! wrote:Does that mean after presentation if there's a draw someone will have to drive track 4 again?
Those who choose to drive in the mud do so because they can't drive the rocks.
Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd/24th Nov
warren@ix.net.auturbo gu wrote:Who from the club is best to send photos to to make sure our cage will be accepted?
cheers
warren is our scrutineer
Those who choose to drive in the mud do so because they can't drive the rocks.
Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd/24th Nov
ACT club tied 2nd place with Brindabella ranges 2 years ago. A drive off is a great idea.the gun wrote:We will know the top ten teams that will b in the hunt for a podium finsh before the presention. A team tie hasn't happen yet. If a track has to b run again the two teams will b notified that they have tied it won't b told for what place.I'm gayer than aids! wrote:Does that mean after presentation if there's a draw someone will have to drive track 4 again?
Mud_runner_GQ says:
I need 1.6 metre long shocks
I need 1.6 metre long shocks
Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd/24th Nov
I stand corrected.CanberraMav wrote:ACT club tied 2nd place with Brindabella ranges 2 years ago. A drive off is a great idea.the gun wrote:We will know the top ten teams that will b in the hunt for a podium finsh before the presention. A team tie hasn't happen yet. If a track has to b run again the two teams will b notified that they have tied it won't b told for what place.I'm gayer than aids! wrote:Does that mean after presentation if there's a draw someone will have to drive track 4 again?
Those who choose to drive in the mud do so because they can't drive the rocks.
Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd/24th Nov
If anyone needs their truck transported to this comp and back home from Newcastle Sydney or central coast areas. My mate has a drop deck that'll be able to take 3 at a time. Plus spares. Call Dave on 0402 007 061. Cheers.
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Steve, check your pm.thunder wrote:In need of a 2nd 4wd to team up with me. GU ute on 40s.
Im there to drive hard and smart and would prefer the same mindset from the 2nd driver. Im not there to crawl and spend 10 minutes on a stage. The red GU has done well in the past toperi events. Our team has already been accepted as 1st entry but now need a new teammate. Thanks steve
Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd/24th Nov
Is this a spectator event as Im sure it hasnt been in the past
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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd/24th Nov
Always has been open to spectatorsfletch60series wrote:Is this a spectator event as Im sure it hasnt been in the past
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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd/24th Nov
Only if the scores are correct, it's an ongoing problem, or maybe it's just me?
Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd/24th Nov
[quote="I'm gayer than aids!"]Only if the scores are correct, it's an ongoing problem, or maybe it's just me?[/quote]
Sorry, I'm a bit sour becouse I can't compete in this anymore.
Sorry, I'm a bit sour becouse I can't compete in this anymore.
Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd/24th Nov
I know it's a long time away yet but will toperi be running again next year?
Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd/24th Nov
Im keen to head up and watch Toperi can anyone please tell me where it is??
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