New Mitsu 4x4 Concept (open source)

[toastmaster]

What do you want in a 4x4 SUV?


I know i haven't been too active on this forum lately but OL has always been one of my favorite forums. I'm working with MMC on a new 4x4 concept, not to replace the Pajero but to start a new chapter in Mitsubishi 4WD. This vehicle will be more competitive with the Jeep JK, having said that don't be afraid to want a real front axle. (the mitsu 9.5 does have a front configuration).

I haven't said much about my recent projects with MMNA, trying not to botch things i'm working on (or reveal things i shouldn't and loose my friends trust). Anyway the short story is that I made some suggestions and had some ideas, these things got mentioned to some people. At that point it was requested that i put my ideas into writing to be presented in Japan, it seems an interest has been sparked. One thing Mitsu has always lacked is listening to the feedback of customers and taking note of their wants and needs, here is your chance to be heard.


The Pajero is what it is and having said that there is no going back, the Pajero has it's own path of evolution that cannot be changed. The push now is for a rebirth or successor to the 4wd market. The plan is to "build" an open source concept 4x4 to be presented to MMC directly, the sky is the limit on this but the chances of getting something going is greater if certain guidelines are followed. For example "Well it has to have pro rock 60's, V8 and monster diesel options, 11" LCD with android capability, 4 wheel steer, be able to max out the RTI ramp stock while still driving like a car on road" is not the goal. Motor's and gizmos are better left out, it's better to just to take on what's currently available and being produced (there's plenty).


The other thing is choosing a platform to work from; Second Gen Pajero/Type 73, Fourth Gen L200/Second Gen Challenger. These utilize something already in production and are obviously IFS/Live axle setups. Otherwise there's designing a whole new frame in order to have real axles front and rear, this would require all new tooling and more R&D on MMC's end which they might not want to do but on the other hand they need the change.
The ultimate goal is a new bodystyle, detailed specs about the suspension and drivetrain minus motor all in a base configuration as in just the core truck.

I'm going to start an actual "thing" a little later but it will be a sandbox for building the concept. I'll put together some guidelines, a parts/equipment compilation and get the ball rolling. The proposed bodystyle is retro modern with hints of Gen 1&2 Pajero and the Second Gen Type 73, so kind of boxy with round headlamps and aggressive body lines.
We'll make sketches and full drawings of body designs, these things will be used as keys for a real concept drawing.

I already have plenty of ideas to go by but I am a firm believer in open source everything so I want every piece of input you guys can come up within reason without adding negative comments or whacky space ship stuff. I don't think any corporate automakers have ventured into this territory before so it will be interesting to see what unfolds. The probability of having this concept made is very remote BUT it does serve a purpose and that is planting a seed.

[date]

Whatever any contributor does, please DO NOT copy or even try to copy the latest offering from Toyota. That thing is UGLY beyond anything you could think of. My preference would be the 1992 Jeep Cherokee. Simple, square lines, compact body and good ground clearance.

[toastmaster]

Yeah, this won't be an FJ copy or a Cherokee copy for that matter. We have some pride, The idea is for a truly capable 4x4 with stoutness exceeding the 2nd Gen Montero in an economical package (everything you need and nothing you don't) your input is noted and thanks.

However Jeep is bringing back the Cherokee. Once again it will be built on a car unibody, have tiny axles and somehow win 4x4 of the year even if it grenades a major drivetrain component during testing

[TWISTY]

Stumbled upon this thread on Pirate 4x4
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/general- ... -4x4s.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Are you the same guy?

Oh, and make sure it looks and performs as good as a FJ Cruiser! they are awesome

[WACKO]

I have a 93 Jtop and would love to see another.
I think solid axles front and rear are the way to go, doesn't need to be full offroad capable out of the box, but the scope to mod with out having to chop the chassis to pieces would be great.
A high torque motor, preferably a diesel, for fuel consumption.

between various trim levels that could be offered there could be the trendy convertible with all the trimings right down to the vinyl flooring, no electrics, and removable rear seats like mine that could appeal to farmers and offroaders alike.

but if it were to go ahead, I vote that they ALL come with a removable hardtop. of course you would be able to option that off on the base model. I have never seen a hardtop for my model for sale, only ones already on vehicles.

Sam

[xagtho]

mitsubishi do have a live axel platform to use

http://www.film.queensu.ca/cj3B/World/JapanPhotos.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

these were in production till 1998

ditch the jeep body for a more mitsubishi style and you'd be on a winner

[OGJON]

solid axles front and rear and full lexury