CCDA external roll cage rules

[pricey]

TEPA has already done that. We are working with CCDA regarding exo cage designs with proper cage builders/drawings etc.

[Z()LTAN]

So much lol...

You lot just made my night.

[V.W.Dave]

So much lol...

You lot just made my night.

Your welcome

[Z()LTAN]

*You're*

[mkpatrol]

*You're*

[V.W.Dave]

*You're*

Boooo to you... I was hoping Pricey was going to school me on spelling again....

[discothrasher]

If your planning on building for TT forget CCDA just ask Pete for the specs on what he is building next because i am sure the rules will be changed so he can build what ever he has coming

If you want to compete in every other event you best to ask the people that run them to know exactly what you can and cant have. My biggest suggestion is to get help from someone that knows what they are doing and stick with ERW seamless not NB pipe.

Not this cockhead again.

[discothrasher]

Stop bringing Qld into it no one wants you up here

If your planning on building for TT forget CCDA just ask Pete for the specs on what he is building next because i am sure the rules will be changed so he can build what ever he has coming .

Again another reason you should go back to were you were hiding.. another dickhead comment about things you have no idea about.. you pull out the TTC comments every yr about this time Dave.. grow a brain you wanker.. Rules are put in place for saftey and the compliance to body rules to ensure the comp stays a CAR comp.. hence why chassis rails are still there .. not Pete working around what he has got or building.. The way people interpet the rules is all in there imagination.. but you wouldnt know about that now would you .. or hang on a leaf sprung zook on 36s can out drive everyone i recall you telling me one day..

Have you ever thought that maybe I do it just to ster the likes of you and a few others up just for the fun of it Every time I do I can imagin the likes of you and the others dancing around a fire with barnzy tin foil hats??? Thanks for keeping that image alive for me
and thats all you will ever build
As far as my old zuke goes it was a budget back yard style build that was on old 39 swompers. If I recall I believe I said for a leafy it had 17" worth of travel in the front and could out drive most. Not all. hahah Funny thing is I sold that thing ummmm over 2 years ago you sure do like to hold onto things don't you. Anyway bought it back for my son to drive about a week ago. I actually am a few weeks away from building a V8 single seater because up here in Qld we don't have one comp that dictates what we can and cant build for the wrest of the comps throughout the year.

[discothrasher]

We built my truck to TTC Rules and have a compliant ccda internal and a duplicated external, I know I will be safe and the navi.
And am glad these rules are there, which is promoting some sick ass trucks been built.

We as a 4x4 community should be getting behind the likes of TEPA who are improving our sport, motorsport is not cheap if you cant comply due to been a tight ass there is no space for you in this fast growing industry. That my 2c

[alexcliffo]

Thank you Pricey et al for all your hard work sorting this out. The main objective should be to ensure the highest level of safety for those competing into the future, even if that means some unhappy campers in the short term.

Having said that, I hope when the specs are finalised ours is okey dokey!

One comment I have is that talk seems to be about exo cages and internal cages. A lot of the TTs cages are probably technically right on the fence between internal and external. The bodies are built around a cage that is, in terms of a 6 point cage geometry and specs, compliant, however it is neither in nor out of the body, rather a structural frame on which the body is grafted or attached. Take Brendan Lohs'es Hilux for example.

Thanks for all your effort to take the sport in the right direction.

[evanstaniland]

^^^ panels on outside makes it an internal

[CanberraMav]

Thank you Pricey et al for all your hard work sorting this out. The main objective should be to ensure the highest level of safety for those competing into the future, even if that means some unhappy campers in the short term.

Having said that, I hope when the specs are finalised ours is okey dokey!

One comment I have is that talk seems to be about exo cages and internal cages. A lot of the TTs cages are probably technically right on the fence between internal and external. The bodies are built around a cage that is, in terms of a 6 point cage geometry and specs, compliant, however it is neither in nor out of the body, rather a structural frame on which the body is grafted or attached. Take Brendan Lohs'es Hilux for example.

Thanks for all your effort to take the sport in the right direction.

Im all for the proper cages. The fact that the body is built around the cage is true and for this reason I think the chassis rule is outdated. It still think the vehicle should retain the look of factory 4wd from the outside though. The new generation TT vehicles are mostly buggies anyways.

Or its time for 2 vehicle classes.

[SierraDan]

I think the some of the little TT rules can be dumb sometimes, but mostly it creates somewhat of an even restriction of the playing field and challenges the build which is cool.

But imagine if some people built their own chassis because they didnt have to use a factory one 8O

[turbo gu]

I think the chassis rule could go BUT only if the body rule was very strict! It must look like a bodied rig not a buggy with some flat sheet skinning it.
It works for Nascar and V8 supercars.

[4_low]

It also works for class 8 in the AORC I think they need to follow that, make it look like a full bodied rig but not have to worry about a 30 yr old chassis holding up in a bad rollover

[Weapons Grade]

It also works for class 8 in the AORC I think they need to follow that, make it look like a full bodied rig but not have to worry about a 30 yr old chassis holding up in a bad rollover

This is a strong argument. A sierra or similar chassis would be a good starting point for a buggy if you needed to comply to current TT rules. It would be marginally stronger than a coke can though. Then your expected to build a high cost roll cage of a such a weak starting platform?

[pricey]

I think the chassis rule could go BUT only if the body rule was very strict! It must look like a bodied rig not a buggy with some flat sheet skinning it.
It works for Nascar and V8 supercars.

If only it was as easy as Supercar/Nascar With both them style cars, all are basically the same chassis and the different motors and slight variant styles of drivetrain are added then the bodies.
With TT, because of the huge amount of choices of bodies and chassis available to use then its impossible to come up with a set of rules that applies and affects all builds equally, but we're trying.

[alexcliffo]

^^ would be good business for local chassis manufacturers. And for those who want to be competitive in Ultra4 without building a second truck. As long as body specs are tight, starting with bonnet remaining full width, so vehicles remain identifiable.

[turbo gu]

I think the chassis rule could go BUT only if the body rule was very strict! It must look like a bodied rig not a buggy with some flat sheet skinning it.
It works for Nascar and V8 supercars.

If only it was as easy as Supercar/Nascar With both them style cars, all are basically the same chassis and the different motors and slight variant styles of drivetrain are added then the bodies.
With TT, because of the huge amount of choices of bodies and chassis available to use then its impossible to come up with a set of rules that applies and affects all builds equally, but we're trying.

Come on Pricey it wouldn't be that bad. most of the rules already exist. eg engine location, body profile rules,

[SierraDan]

Whinge less. Build more.

[evanstaniland]

Shut up Dan!

It's good to get different point of views.


Good to see the chassis rule go and run with strict body rules in a 2nd class

[CanberraMav]

Shut up Dan!

It's good to get different point of views.


Good to see the chassis rule go and run with strict body rules in a 2nd class

I'd vote in favour of this.

[stilivn]

As a spectator I would be very keen on a second class. Pricey is TT big enough for a second event during the year for a buggy style class.

[SierraDan]

Shut up Dan!

Piss off.
Finish your car too

[joshy]

agree with the fact its dodgy keeping the chassis rails...but a lot of guys build around em so they are only really there for looks..
don't agree with the 2nd class for tufftruck.. will take away from the whole event.

[MARKx4]

I don't think with some of the cars built today the little bit of chassis that is currently required doesn't really matter, we should allow full tube chassis buggy's and current tuff truck built rigs to compete all in the same category as long as they all follow the same body laws and measurements and it is scruteenered to a tight tolerance of +/-5mm or something, you will get more interest and a bigger competitor list and more people building cars if they can have 1 car for multiple events.

Mark.

[WICKED]

Tuff TRUCK not Tuffest in CLASS.

[johnsy86]

Tuff TRUCK not Tuffest in CLASS.

we don't agree on much but I agree with this.

[evanstaniland]

Tuff TRUCK not Tuffest in CLASS.

A lot arnt trucks. They are skinned buggys

[joshy]

Tuff TRUCK not Tuffest in CLASS.

A lot arnt trucks. They are skinned buggys

Doesn't matter, as long as they meet the rules. That's what's good about it, guys there that push the rules to the limit and others with full body full chassis. Don't need another class it works now.