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spring retainers

Tech Talk for Rover owners.

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spring retainers

Post by derangedrover »

anyone got pics/specs of lower rear spring retainers on a Rover that work well and last when using 12+" stroke shocks and ~18" free 180-220lb springs, 32-35" tyre & steel rim?

Im being specific because I think a retainer that works for 10" free, 330lb springs and 44" tyres may be overkill for what I want, you get the idea.

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Post by TUFRR »

I find the stock lower retainers work fine with 13" travel shockers and 35's on steel rims.

It's the top thats the problem with only 18" springs you will need some type of relocation guides mine are made from 4" tube and clamped from the top.
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Post by derangedrover »

TuffRR,
Got any pics of your shock mounting arrangement?
What shocks and type of end bushings?
Mine (89RR) hasnt got any retainers, what do stock ones look like?

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Retainers

Post by LOCKY »

I Run Rangie Spares Lower Retainers that allow the spring to to twist. They are about 40 mm high and have mountes a cone shape 80 Series Toyota Bumpstop inside at the top to guide the spring back into location.

Running 18.5 free height 220lb springs and GQ Rear Shocks that are eye to eye and made a bracket to suit the pin mount, works well.
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Post by derangedrover »

Locky,
I need pics!!!!!
Im running 80 series bumpstops but cant concieve a neat way to retain the top of the spring.
For the lower I was going to copy the Expedition Exchange design but was looking for other sources of inspiration, haven't seen the rangie spares version, what do they look like?

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Post by Strange Rover »

On my rear spring Im using 40mm x 5mm clamp plates top and bottom in a similar way to the factory lower mount (I bent this one and just made it bigger)

On the front Im using a piece of 25mm x 5mm steel bent into a very tight hook that hooks over the bottom winding of the spring. The upper one is bolted in and the lower one is welded in. To change the springs I have to cut the lower one off but its very easy to get to and I just weld it back on. From now on Im just going to use the welded hooks all round, its very easy to do and they don fall off.

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Post by Adam »

does rangie spares have a website or a catalog i could look at those in? they sound awesome and just what im looking for...
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Post by Bush65 »

Adam wrote:does rangie spares have a website or a catalog i could look at those in? they sound awesome and just what im looking for...


Adam http://www.4wdworld.com.au/outlets/rangie/rangie.htm
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Post by DiscoDino »

You can go to http://www.expeditionexchange.com/retai ... 833340.jpg

I got them, but Have not yet installed them, finish is GREAT, and size is great.
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Post by Bodge »

Locky - how much lift do the 18.5 220's net? Any driveline issues? Where did you get em....?

Whats the extended length on those GQ shocks?[/quote]
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Post by derangedrover »

18.5" free 220lb/in in rear = 400mm loaded height / no bumper, spare etc
18" free 180lb/in in front = 300mm loaded, rover eng, arb bar, xd 9000

vehicle sits ~50mm rear high unloaded

need DC front shaft at this height, rear seems OK. Haven't driven much with this set up so time will tell, dont know about balance front to back yet really either..

dont ask me what this equates to in terms of total lift from stock cause I really have no idea, at a guess its about 100mm maybe more....

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Post by Kevin Bowers »

I made my own spring retainers for the rear (upper and lower), and have made sets for a friend in Perth that are on their way there. I sent him 4 sets, all already spoken for.

I run 3.5" springs, and 1.5" aluminum spacers (that I made) on my 1988 Classic. I run 34" swampers, and 10" shocks. The lower retainers are 1/4" steel flat plate, and the top is 3/16" flat plate. I use grade 8 hardware, and have run these on my truck for two years now, with NO problems. The first picture is a beefier version of the lower retainer, and the other two pics are the top retainer.

-Kevin Bowers, Flagstaff, AZ U.S.A.
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Post by Brad C »

Kevin , how do they hold up ? just that the welds look a bit dodgy { boogie welds } ha ha ha its all good home brand ha ha ha :finger:
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Post by Kevin Bowers »

Send the guy some retainers, and he critiques your welding (done in the snow, as well!). You may have to look up what "snow" is, eh Mr. 40 degrees? See you in a few... I'll bring my shorts, homie!
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