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G16A Compression Ratios & Sierra heads...

Tech Talk for Suzuki owners.

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G16A Compression Ratios & Sierra heads...

Post by Impulsive »

Hi all,

Just building a motor for the Vitara.

In lieu of having a manual handy, does anyone have the following torque settings that they can help me with?

Main bearing carriers
Big ends (conrod)
Head bolts
oil pump bolts
flywheel bolts (besides f^#ken tight!)

Any assistance is appreciated...

Cheers,

Adam
Last edited by Impulsive on Mon May 24, 2004 11:46 am, edited 1 time in total.
1998 Vitara Hard Top 2.0 EFI
65mm springs (by Allsprings)
35mm body lift
Rancho RS9000's
235's on 15in alloys
Flipped strut mounts
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Re: G16A torque settings anyone?

Post by Beastmavster »

Impulsive wrote:Hi all,

Just building a motor for the Vitara.

In lieu of having a manual handy, does anyone have the following torque settings that they can help me with?

Main bearing carriers
Big ends (conrod)
Head bolts
oil pump bolts
flywheel bolts (besides f^#ken tight!)

Any assistance is appreciated...

Cheers,

Adam


My manual seems to specify same for 1300 as for 1600

Main Bearing cap bolts 36.5 to 41
Conrod cap nuts 24 to 26.5
Dizzy case bots 5.8 to 7.2
Rear oil seal housing 7 to 8.5
Oil pump gear plate , oil pump to block and oil pan all 7 - 8.5
Crankshaft pulley 7.5 to 9
Crankshaft pulley centrE bolt 52 (76-83 on 16v)
fLYWHEEL 58
tIMING BELT COVER 7 TO 8.5
Rocker arm shaft retaining screws 7 to 8.5
Timing belt tensioner bolt 17.5 to 21.5
Timing belt tensioner nut 7 to 8.5
Camshaft cover bolts 3 to 3.5
Intake and exhaust manifold 13.5 to 20
Camshaft sprocket bolt 41 to 46

Head Stage 1, 25, Stage 2 40, stage 3 46 to 50.

All measurements in ft-lbs
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Tensions...

Post by Impulsive »

Good on ya Viagra...

Luv ya work. Thanks buddy!! :D
1998 Vitara Hard Top 2.0 EFI
65mm springs (by Allsprings)
35mm body lift
Rancho RS9000's
235's on 15in alloys
Flipped strut mounts
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Compression Ratios

Post by Impulsive »

Hi again people...

This is, I guess, just another question for anyone with a manual handy... (Viagra?)

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone could tell me the standard compression ratio of a G16A motor?

...and what it would be likely to raise to by using the G13BA head I have bought.

My main concern is that whilst it would be great to have a 10:1 compression ratio, I don't want it to necessitate my having to use Premium Unleaded forever, particularly now that the price is coming up a bit.

I should get a fair idea by what the standard ratio is. I'm hoping it will be about 9.5, but I doubt it would be that low, being a Suzuki (rather than a Datsun 1200).

Thanks in anticipation...

Adam
1998 Vitara Hard Top 2.0 EFI
65mm springs (by Allsprings)
35mm body lift
Rancho RS9000's
235's on 15in alloys
Flipped strut mounts
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Location: Brisbane Australia

Re: Compression Ratios

Post by Beastmavster »

Impulsive wrote:Hi again people...

This is, I guess, just another question for anyone with a manual handy... (Viagra?)

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone could tell me the standard compression ratio of a G16A motor?

...and what it would be likely to raise to by using the G13BA head I have bought.

My main concern is that whilst it would be great to have a 10:1 compression ratio, I don't want it to necessitate my having to use Premium Unleaded forever, particularly now that the price is coming up a bit.

I should get a fair idea by what the standard ratio is. I'm hoping it will be about 9.5, but I doubt it would be that low, being a Suzuki (rather than a Datsun 1200).

Thanks in anticipation...

Adam


The standard for EFI i believe is about 9.3-9.5 for aussie models and 8.8-9.0 for carby models - my manual is too crap to say.

Here's a link to an indonesian site with specs.

http://www.geocities.com/benyamin.geo/epi_page.html
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Post by Beastmavster »

Could work it out from the sierra specs...work out combustion chamber size based on CR from the sierra and then work out the proportional difference in cylinder volume.

mind you' it's be as much based on guesswork since the pistons may not come to the same height compared to the deck, may have different cutaways etc.

http://www.suzukisamurai.rockcrawler.com/specs.htm

Guy (love_mud) had a 1300 head on his sierra with a 1600 vitara bottom end. might be worth asking him.
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Compression Ratios

Post by Impulsive »

Gees, based on even an approximate original value of 9.0 for the carby (G16A), which is what I have, I have FAR from anything to worry about...

Thanks for your help, yet again...

(Now hurry up & get those springs down to me!!....lol)

Cheers,

Adam
1998 Vitara Hard Top 2.0 EFI
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Rancho RS9000's
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Post by moose »

I,m running 1.6 bottom end & 1.3 head !!
with the timing advanced 2' (above standard)
it will ping occasionally on standard unleaded !!
but goes GROUSE on premium !!! worth the $$$$ !!!!
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Standard Unleaded

Post by Impulsive »

Now THAT's the kinda stuff I like to hear!!

Thanks for your input Moose...

Adam
1998 Vitara Hard Top 2.0 EFI
65mm springs (by Allsprings)
35mm body lift
Rancho RS9000's
235's on 15in alloys
Flipped strut mounts
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Post by moose »

aaahhh , the kind sound of appreciation !!!! ;)

no probs !!! :D
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Re: Compression Ratios

Post by Beastmavster »

Impulsive wrote:Gees, based on even an approximate original value of 9.0 for the carby (G16A), which is what I have, I have FAR from anything to worry about...

Thanks for your help, yet again...

(Now hurry up & get those springs down to me!!....lol)
Cheers,

Adam


Money in bank today. Hope to get springs sent to you tomorrow. just took them out now about 5 mins ago as per PM....

Even in one of the original boxes.... but still got some mud on them... not enough time to wash them before I do this then origin I....
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Springs...

Post by Impulsive »

You're forgiven. I'll get the missus onto them when they get here... no worries.

Oh, and "Go the Blues!!"



(No wives were harmed in the typing of this post) :D
1998 Vitara Hard Top 2.0 EFI
65mm springs (by Allsprings)
35mm body lift
Rancho RS9000's
235's on 15in alloys
Flipped strut mounts
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