Landy springs !

Post by **LandyLad** » Sun May 23, 2004 10:39 am

I have found that my sIII swb ute is far too stiff in the suspension department , it still has the standard spring packs the only mod. to the suspension so far are a set of military shackles. How many leaves can I remove? how many should I leave under it? I've also installed a reco 202 red motor and believe that they are slightly lighter than the original landy motors. Sorry in advance for asking such a trivial question but I dont want to be stuffing around for days trying to dial in my suspension!

Thanks, Chad.

Post by **DaveS3** » Sun May 23, 2004 2:54 pm

Could probably take 2 out of rear, 1 or two out of front...

Its all trail and error. if its still too hard, take more out, too soft put more back in. You may loose some ride height though, but it will flex a bit easier but your shocks will probably limit travel AFAIK.

Good luck, and tell us what you end up doing!

Dave

Post by **Richard James** » Sun May 23, 2004 6:40 pm

It is curious isn't that what one person finds stiff another doesn't. I have a 1976 Series SWB 'Station Wagon' (hard-top,removable if you dare). Any way,I have LWB springs fitted front and rear with normal shackles and on the highway I get a good even ride (I also drive a Porsche and Alpha Romeo and have ridden regularly in Discoveries and Range Rovers,for comparison). Of course if I go over train tracks it is a bit rough but so is the Mercedes ambulance that I sometimes drive - on good roads the ride is great,no complaints - although everyone says what a rough ride I must get!

Post by **darryl** » Sun May 23, 2004 8:48 pm

i have a tray back mid wheel base series 3 and use 5 in the rear and 7 in the front, i get alright wheel travel and not to bad a ride on the road, its a lot of trial and error though

Post by **DaveS3** » Sun May 23, 2004 8:59 pm

Mid wheel base?????

Post by **darryl** » Sun May 23, 2004 9:13 pm

you make them your self

Post by **ISUZUROVER** » Mon May 24, 2004 4:27 am

First off - might be worth reading this thread...

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modules/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=18823

Check that you do have the genuine springs (count leaves and measure thicknesses) and not aftermarket copies which are MUCH stiffer.

The easiest way to start is to take the bottom leaf off each pack and see how much difference it makes. Alternatively you can take the 3rd leaf fron the top out from each pack (the first full length one without eyes) - that will make a fair bit of difference. You may need to get the springs reset.

Another thing you can do is redesign the spring pack and flatten out some of the lower leaves to make a dual rate spring pack instead of a single rate spring like some other 4x4's. this is good if you want a soft ride but want to carry loads occasionally.

Richard - you must have almost no rear wheel ravel with 400lb/in springs on a landie designed for 160lb/in springs.

Post by **Richard James** » Mon May 24, 2004 9:36 am

I have never measured my wheel travel but in practical terms I do quite a bit of medium difficulty 4WD with rock,ruts and mud and have not had any more problems than woould be expected from a leaf sprung vehicle - that is it performs preety well. Also on another occasion the wheel travel was enought to put a rear shock absorber apart (I have since fitted OME Shock Absorbers with more travel. So I do not think travel has ever been a problem. I think all Series 3 vehicles are unique - each one is different with different characteristics. But then you all probably know that!
Regards from Richard

Post by **DaveS3** » Mon May 24, 2004 2:30 pm

darryl wrote:you make them your self

Thats sounds good, i wondered...

What WB is it?? approx 100 whith leafs???

Sounds very nice..can you post up some info on it??

Dave

Post by **Richard James** » Mon May 24, 2004 4:55 pm

Hi Dave - my vehicle is a SWB,the springs came from 4WD in Middleborough Rd. Box Hill (but please do not ask me to recommend them for all parts). Ref page 76 in their catalogue. The serial numbers are 279678 Driver side and 279679 Passenger side. I can't tell you the definite width of the springs as my vehicle is being serviced prior to my next trip but I have a spare set in my workshop. As I could only get access to their bush ends,they measure about 80 mm. I think that the springs are of uniform width for their whole length.
I hope that this information helps.
Regards from Richard

Post by **darryl** » Tue May 25, 2004 8:43 am

wheel base is 100 inch have taken 9 inches out of middle,between the outriggers behind cab that way only the tray has to be changed and rear tail shaft , ive also cut 9inches from behind rear spring hanger

Post by **DaveS3** » Tue May 25, 2004 5:34 pm

Sounds good darryl,

What are you using engine wise???
Stock drive train??

ps - sorry for the hijack!

Dave

Post by **ISUZUROVER** » Tue May 25, 2004 6:25 pm

v8grunt on here who doesn't post often has a 100" SIII with a 5.0l v8, ford top loader, series T-case and front and rear lockers.

Post by **modman** » Tue May 25, 2004 8:05 pm

is that the 100" from 4wd monthly?

david

Post by **ISUZUROVER** » Tue May 25, 2004 9:06 pm

I don't know - can't get 4x4 monthly in Germany. If it is blue, purpla and black and has a cab made from the front of a LWB hardtop and the owner's name is Glen then yes.

Post by **modman** » Tue May 25, 2004 9:11 pm

yeah its black, thats the one.
nice series :cool:

, must go like stink!!
david

Post by **darryl** » Wed May 26, 2004 6:46 am

motor is 186,low ratio transfer case gears,35 tyres,most of the drive train came off glens car when he done his conversion

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