broken longfields

Post by **adrian** » Wed Jun 09, 2004 5:42 pm

Broke my new longfield today NOT HAPPY JAN

Post by **MissDrew** » Wed Jun 09, 2004 5:53 pm

Details on what setup you are running?
How did you brake it? was steering straight or turned full etc etc etc.
Is it a new style long or the old?
Where you buy it from?

Post by **NICK** » Wed Jun 09, 2004 7:47 pm

shitty longs, has anyone not broken them?

NICK

Post by **MissDrew** » Wed Jun 09, 2004 7:50 pm

I haven`t.

But my lux is only a show truck :roll:

Post by **RUFF** » Wed Jun 09, 2004 7:58 pm

We broke one in a vehicle that weighs aprox 1500kg just above idle in less than 5min of driving and it had no lockers. The opposite one lasted maybe 15min. This is the second generation Long with the small Ring.

One of my original style longs Broke a few weeks ago after aprox 2years of abuse.

I know a few others that have not had a great run with anything other than the original style longfield.

Post by **NICK** » Wed Jun 09, 2004 8:14 pm

Guts wrote:I haven`t.

But my lux is only a show truck

you know your always going to take second against me in a show and shine. :finger:

ooooooooooppps i mean 4th as bubs and aza will take first and second.

NICK

Post by **bj56** » Wed Jun 09, 2004 8:16 pm

lol bubs and azas will be at the show and sine on chassy stands lol

Post by **NICK** » Wed Jun 09, 2004 8:24 pm

getting back to the topic, who currently has what.

longs, smurfs, brenchel, profeilds, core, snake racing longs etc

what would be your reason for buying over the other?

Post by **4sum4** » Wed Jun 09, 2004 8:35 pm

I got longs cause they were the cheapest out of the APPARENTLY stronger cv `s

Post by **4sum4** » Wed Jun 09, 2004 8:39 pm

RUFF wrote:We broke one in a vehicle that weighs aprox 1500kg just above idle in less than 5min of driving and it had no lockers. The opposite one lasted maybe 15min. This is the second generation Long with the small Ring.

One of my original style longs Broke a few weeks ago after aprox 2years of abuse.

I know a few others that have not had a great run with anything other than the original style longfield.

Same goes with the original cv, some people smash them every drive and some people don`t.just got to get lucky

Post by **adrian** » Wed Jun 09, 2004 9:49 pm

Running 35 simexes with twin lockers and a v6 commadore , cv broke in a straight ahead position but the shaft broke not the bell , it snaped off about an inch back from the freewhelling hub circlip . Its the second generation one without the ring .

Post by **duncan** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 12:22 am

Adrian who did you by them from and how much if you dont mind .Im still undecided as people are telling me that for GQs any of the stronger cvs can be broke Cheesy told me to go for a GU diff aparently thats what all the comp guys are running in the east can get a full diff for $1800

Post by **4sum4** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 6:50 pm

[quote="duncan"]Adrian who did you by them from and how much if you dont mind .Im still undecided as people are telling me that for GQs any of the stronger cvs can be broke Cheesy told me to go for a GU diff aparently thats what all the comp guys are running in the east can get a full diff for $1800

you can buy alot of spare cv`s for that much

Post by **Area54** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:08 pm

RUFF wrote:We broke one in a vehicle that weighs aprox 1500kg just above idle in less than 5min of driving and it had no lockers. The opposite one lasted maybe 15min. This is the second generation Long with the small Ring.

To be fair though, this was when the wheel was bound up, full lock, and booted in reverse with the power from a V8. most treated CV's would have broken.

Post by **NICK** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:16 pm

4sum4 wrote:
duncan wrote:Adrian who did you by them from and how much if you dont mind .Im still undecided as people are telling me that for GQs any of the stronger cvs can be broke Cheesy told me to go for a GU diff aparently thats what all the comp guys are running in the east can get a full diff for $1800

you can buy alot of spare cv`s for that much

and then when you do brake a GU cv it is only 400+ for a new one. top ungrade that one

Post by **NICK** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:20 pm

adrian wrote:Running 35 simexes with twin lockers and a v6 commadore , cv broke in a straight ahead position but the shaft broke not the bell , it snaped off about an inch back from the freewhelling hub circlip . Its the second generation one without the ring .

got pics? was it a clean brake like it was partered of in a lathe or did it explode?

NICK

Post by **RUFF** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:20 pm

Area54 wrote:
RUFF wrote:We broke one in a vehicle that weighs aprox 1500kg just above idle in less than 5min of driving and it had no lockers. The opposite one lasted maybe 15min. This is the second generation Long with the small Ring.

To be fair though, this was when the wheel was bound up, full lock, and booted in reverse with the power from a V8. most treated CV's would have broken.

I think you will find when it broke it was in a straight line going forward and was not being booted at all. But yes it was bound.

Post by **ausyota** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:21 pm

I dont much like the sounds of this guys.
I just bought 2 new style Longs

.
Wont be in for a couple of months yet though.
I hope they can handle the mighty power of a 2.8 diesel lux

.
Paul.

Post by **Area54** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:24 pm

RUFF wrote:
Area54 wrote:
RUFF wrote:We broke one in a vehicle that weighs aprox 1500kg just above idle in less than 5min of driving and it had no lockers. The opposite one lasted maybe 15min. This is the second generation Long with the small Ring.

To be fair though, this was when the wheel was bound up, full lock, and booted in reverse with the power from a V8. most treated CV's would have broken.

I think you will find when it broke it was in a straight line going forward and was not being booted at all. But yes it was bound.

QROCK?

Post by **NICK** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:26 pm

ausyota wrote:I dont much like the sounds of this guys.
I just bought 2 new style Longs .
Wont be in for a couple of months yet though.
I hope they can handle the mighty power of a 2.8 diesel lux .
Paul.

all comes back to tyre size, driving style and how well setup your front end is.

NICK

Post by **RUFF** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:28 pm

Area54 wrote:
QROCK?

Yep. But i guess you have the video to watch to varify this.

Either way if the CV was as strong as it should have been it would have snapped an axle not the CV. They are just so much weaker than the originals.

Post by **Area54** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:31 pm

My apologies, was forward direction, full lock RH down, reasonable blip on the throttle though.

Still a shame it broke so early on the course.

What's the verdict on Adrians front RH side CV?

Post by **RUFF** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:35 pm

Just keep in mind the CVs i have seen broken were in situations that most people will never get in. The average guy is going to have trouble breaking a stock CV. We are breaking these in competition use on rocks that are bigger than the average small car.

Post by **RUFF** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:38 pm

Area54 wrote:What's the verdict on Adrians front RH side CV?

It was a TC problem not a CV. We have not pulled the CVs after this round yet to inspect them but they are holding up to a lot of abuse. These are a treated CV of our own that will soon be available from Haultech Engineering.

Post by **Area54** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:43 pm

RUFF wrote:Just keep in mind the CVs i have seen broken were in situations that most people will never get in. The average guy is going to have trouble breaking a stock CV. We are breaking these in competition use on rocks that are bigger than the average small car.

Absolutely right, bigger tyres, more awkward positions, better traction surfaces and mo' power. Most people would get a lifetime of normal wheeling from a treated CV, in a locked front end. I still remember the first day when you had your longs, that day in the creek. Full noise, full lock both sides AND bouncing. Back in the day... :lol:

Post by **landy_man** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:47 pm

i also have new ringed longs in my pos... might have to tread lightly... :lol:

on second thoughts... what the hell... they cost less than genuines anyways....
would be interested in the "Wrongfields" / "Strangefields"/ "Haulfields"...

what sort of $$ you guys thinking of

Post by **Area54** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:48 pm

RUFF wrote:
Area54 wrote:What's the verdict on Adrians front RH side CV?

It was a TC problem not a CV. We have not pulled the CVs after this round yet to inspect them but they are holding up to a lot of abuse. These are a treated CV of our own that will soon be available from Haultech Engineering.

Awesome. Will be good to have an affordable, locally available CV in the market.

Post by **adrian** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:50 pm

had a good look at the cv today and it twisted off the shaft about 75mm back from the circlip groove but not straight through but on about a 45 degree angle but it just shattered into lots of little pieces . Will post pics tomorrow . I rang the states and talked to bobby long today and had words to him because thats were i got em from and he has sent another one over free of charge :cool:

Post by **NICK** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:55 pm

sam broke one in the same way at the expo afew weeks ago.

NICK

Post by **adrian** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:58 pm

bobby said they dont brake like that often but they do sometimes dosent know why :roll:

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