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Singo17 wrote:isn't there a question mark against diff size, are they D30 or D44? I could search but LAZY.
They are a D30c, but don`t hold me to that. But there is a warn upgrade for them that makes them the same strength as a D44. Mark hickey has this in his XJ along with the different stud pattern 6 on 6.5 instead of the 6 on 5.5 or is it 5 on bla bla, fark I can`t remember now
Nah the XJ get the weak (stock) dana35c....and the cclip is the real weakness when the tyres get over about 33".....but just like anything with a jeep there's a kit to upgrade it (for a price (again as with anything 4 a jeep ))
The stock stud pattern in 5 on 4.5"....there are kits (again for a $$$) to convert to 5 on 5.5"....
Yeah the 4.0L can be thirsty - especially if ya start sinking the foot....but you either learn quick via a burn wallet, of just get used to dumping your wallet straight into the fuel tank - since I have NFI what ecconomy it returns I just feed it when it beeps.....you can probably guess which group I'm in
I picked up my '96 80 GXL with the airlockers f&R for $13K, Sand blasted but had never been 4wdriven (properly), so they're out there.
In the price range I would say GQ but if you could find one I would go a 80 series GXL but I would think you be hard pressed to get one at the price in Nick.
Punchy wrote:If your xj jeep was anything like our tj wrangler, its shithouse mileage. !!!
Mate her XJ gets LOADS better milage than my TJ.....
For 60L we get about 400km, whereas for the TJ I get about 300km for the same amount of fuel.....
Guess it has a lot to do with basic areodynamic differences between the 2, stock XJ v's TJ sitting about 10½" higher than stock, rolling weight of a 30" tyre A/T compared to a 36"TSL, differing axle ratios, and the TJ being a few hundred kg heavier......
I noticed no-one has mentioned pre IFS Hilux's. I thought these things were weapons off road with a few suspension tweaks?
Or are they not mentioned because they don't have velour interiors?
as much as i'm a toyota man, i'd say GQ (oir maveric for the buget consious). a 60 series looses out offroad (just) in stock form to a GQ, 80 series looses out on price, and a hilux isn't too comparable, as it's more a workhorse, with a less powerful diesel...
-Nemesis- wrote:I noticed no-one has mentioned pre IFS Hilux's. I thought these things were weapons off road with a few suspension tweaks? Or are they not mentioned because they don't have velour interiors?
Well if you've seen any of them offroad you'd know why they weren't mentioned. No flex in the front which causes the lightweight rear to do all of the work, and making lots of dust is what they seem to do best. Apart from that, from an IFS truck i'm not overly excited by the on-road ride... it should be better.
In saying all that I would go Lada Niva
Only joking GQ or even 60, for the above mention features. But in my opinion the GQ wins because all of the 60's are at least a good 15yrs old and regardless of how well they were kept by the previous owner that is something you do want to start taking into account if you are somewhere remote.
-Nemesis- wrote:I noticed no-one has mentioned pre IFS Hilux's. I thought these things were weapons off road with a few suspension tweaks? Or are they not mentioned because they don't have velour interiors?
Well if you've seen any of them offroad you'd know why they weren't mentioned. No flex in the front which causes the lightweight rear to do all of the work, and making lots of dust is what they seem to do best. Apart from that, from an IFS truck i'm not overly excited by the on-road ride... it should be better.
In saying all that I would go Lada Niva
Only joking GQ or even 60, for the above mention features. But in my opinion the GQ wins because all of the 60's are at least a good 15yrs old and regardless of how well they were kept by the previous owner that is something you do want to start taking into account if you are somewhere remote.
i thought he was talking about PRE IFS (that is solid axle hilux's that were around before the IFS brigade)
-Nemesis- wrote:I noticed no-one has mentioned pre IFS Hilux's. I thought these things were weapons off road with a few suspension tweaks? Or are they not mentioned because they don't have velour interiors?
Well if you've seen any of them offroad you'd know why they weren't mentioned. No flex in the front which causes the lightweight rear to do all of the work, and making lots of dust is what they seem to do best. Apart from that, from an IFS truck i'm not overly excited by the on-road ride... it should be better.
In saying all that I would go Lada Niva
Only joking GQ or even 60, for the above mention features. But in my opinion the GQ wins because all of the 60's are at least a good 15yrs old and regardless of how well they were kept by the previous owner that is something you do want to start taking into account if you are somewhere remote.
i thought he was talking about PRE IFS (that is solid axle hilux's that were around before the IFS brigade)
That we are ...now you know my thoughts on IFS now too!
i'm also with 383 on the troopy idea, even an early 75 troopy might do it.
but i'm biased as i got a troopy myself.
a cheapish troopy for 2-3 grand, couple of grand on a 2h/ whatever diesel the budget allows, and get some nice springs on it, shouldn't be too bad.
just fix all the leaks, and check for play/ bearings every so often and you got no drama, but a GQ still is a good option, if you like a little more comfort
you could get a diesel 45 cheaper than a GQ diesel.
fit heaps more gear in the back. (saves taking a trailer)
everything is so basic that if anything went wrong it would be a simple fix.
reliable. i recon you could do a fair few laps of australia before you need to fix anything.
comfort may not be its best feature but they not as bad as people make them out to be.
You could get a canoe even cheaper than a 45, less to go wrong, again could do a couple of laps and they really are more comfy than land lovers make out
Does anyone else see any use in comparing apples with acorns?
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