Fitting Mog Portals Under a Landrover (Sam)

[ptl]

Hi,

here http://stiletti.wipsl.com/gallery/album93?page=3 are a few (not that detailed) pics of a mog-rangie, we met on an event a month ago. That vehicle is street legan in Finland, but required a special permission from the "street legal authority" (cannot figure out what ajoneuvohallintokeskus really is in english). The special permission costs 250-300euros (also in the case the decision is negative), my volvo axles were a lot "lighter" conversion, this special permission ws not needed. He had to cut the oil pan and move it about 4" (to the right I think). The owner told me he had big problems finding good enough tyres, he has the original 18" (or 20"?) rims, and there were a lot of tractor tyres available, most of them max 40 km/h rated... but then he found the ones he bought, those are rated 80 km/h. The tie rod is (at least was a month ago) in the mog original place, i.e. hanging real low, and it was bent quite badly.

Compared to my volvo axles it seems to be a lot more difficult to do.

How much mog axles are rated for long high-way drive? Is it the older mog axles that cannot exceed 80 km/h?

Just my 2 cents... while trying to wake up, it's mid-summer here, and some people (including the one who is making this post) consumed some amount of alcohol last night. :-)

-Paavo

[ISUZUROVER]

Thanks a lot for the info and the link Paavo. How did he manage to run the propshaft? did he change to a different transfer case?

Yes the Mog axles are a lot heavier and for my application I don't think I would exceed the strength of the volvo axles. The hard part is finding some volvo's for a good price, either in Europe or Australia.

I know what you mean about the alcohol. I am still recovering from a friend's wedding I went to on the weekend in Rhineland Pfalz.

[ptl]

Hi,

the mog-rangie had a jeep xfer box I think... or something, now I'm not sure about it, the selection criteria however was to match the diff locations, i.e minimise the horizontal propshaft angles.

-Paavo

[Nick (in the Falklands!)]

.....These days, I don't think that is such a hard problem to overcome.

Wide-angle u/j's combined with C/V joints at top end seem to correct an awful lot of mix 'n match drive combinations...as long as there's enough space to fit a section of spline in too..

(... What you don't want is what happened to a bloke down here who
made a very neat job of shoe-horning an ex-101" V8 & gear/transfer box
...with the short bellhousing, into an ex-argie LWB G-wagen....

All bolted up, proper job, finally ready for fire-up & test......started fine,
selected gear....& would'nt go anywhere...!

...Strange, whats going on here...??

Someone watched for him from outside...because the drivetrain loaded up OK on the clutch when released...
....& there's the back axle fighting the front..!!

.. ..G-wagen's have one axle with the diff arse-about-face...'cos
the transfer case has separate (contra-rotating) output shafts...!!

Hook them up to a thru'-drive t/box....& you're 'shafted' !!

(Actually, thats not all, what was even dafter, was having come that far, he decided the only way to sort the problem out was to fit axles that turned the right way....Series III LWB ones (so off came the difflocked
Merc ones which were the original reason for building the vehicle... )

Somewhere in there, another transfer case came into play too, which necesitated chopping the Rover one off the gearbox & flanging the output shaft to suit the swap (I ended up with the guts of the T-box from that bit of it all )....you can get carried away can't you...!!

[ISUZUROVER]

That is very funny. Why didn't he just flip the front diff centre and casing so it was upside down and then ran the correct way??? The diff lock wouldn't have worked without a new axle but at least he would still have had the rear...

[daddylonglegs]

I heard of something very similar happening over here many years ago. A couple of blokes put Bedford RL4x4 diffs under a Bedford bus , but instead of fitting a Bedford transfercase they used a Studebaker 6x6 t/case and set off on a trip from melbourne to Cape York Peninsular without testing it out. They did not require four wheel drive until they had to cross the Wenlock river. When they engaged 4x4 the bus immediately bogged down and it was noticed that the front wheels were turning in the opposite direction to the rears. Apparently they had a 240 volt generating set ,welder and all the power tools they needed, so they flipped the whole front axle and then bolted the swivel balls left to right and correct way round. A monumental job on a heavy vehicle in the middle of the bush.
Bill.

[N*A*M]

they were up sh1t creek but at least they had a paddle