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Gabriel Shocks
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Gabriel Shocks
has anyone had any experience with gabriel shocks?? a guy i know recommended them as they are pretty cheap (around $100 each), and he's tried tough dog's and rancho's, and reckons that they're second to only the koni's.super cheap auto quoted me $99 each for the blue ryders, anyone used these or the red ryder heavy duty's?? if so any good and how much did you pay?
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I have Blueriders in my Paj and think they are excellent.
Local 4wd place said they sell over 12 per month and never had one come back. Think they cost me about 120 each and mechanic reckoned (also our local ARB rep) you need to spend over $300 to get something better.
Who knows? I don't know a real lot about shocks....but somthing of interest....
Went on about 8 hour 4wd trip a few months ago real rough ground, all footy sized rocks going on for fricken ever was one of those trips you go on and just get sick of bouncing aorund the cabin.
Anyway near the end one of the hilux's with us stopped as had a clunking noise coming from the front end, though a shock was loose, wasn't anyway but noticed that his shocks were too hot to touch (nitrochargers) another with bilsteins checked theres and they were also red hot, but the blueriders were cold in the front and only luke warm in the back so they can't be too bad.
Hope that helps.
Local 4wd place said they sell over 12 per month and never had one come back. Think they cost me about 120 each and mechanic reckoned (also our local ARB rep) you need to spend over $300 to get something better.
Who knows? I don't know a real lot about shocks....but somthing of interest....
Went on about 8 hour 4wd trip a few months ago real rough ground, all footy sized rocks going on for fricken ever was one of those trips you go on and just get sick of bouncing aorund the cabin.
Anyway near the end one of the hilux's with us stopped as had a clunking noise coming from the front end, though a shock was loose, wasn't anyway but noticed that his shocks were too hot to touch (nitrochargers) another with bilsteins checked theres and they were also red hot, but the blueriders were cold in the front and only luke warm in the back so they can't be too bad.
Hope that helps.
92 nh, 3.0 auto, 2' Body lift, cranked T/bars, 31' BFG's on outlaws.
I used to use Gabriels as replacement shocks when people wanted a cheapie replacement in my old workshop (not 4wd tho) After 12 months of doing this I was getting very sick of replacing gabriels under warranty, and I wasn't the only one.
All of the local parts suppliers stopped stocking them for the same reason.
Just my experience with them, and they were only 2wd shocks.
On the other hand, they are on the front of the Paj I now have (on it when i bought it) and they are actually doing OK. they aren't that old and I would say that their performance is average at best, but bang for buck they might be quite OK. (well they are only a cheap shock so u get what you pay for. good for those on a tight budget maybe)
They won't be staying there tho!!
All of the local parts suppliers stopped stocking them for the same reason.
Just my experience with them, and they were only 2wd shocks.
On the other hand, they are on the front of the Paj I now have (on it when i bought it) and they are actually doing OK. they aren't that old and I would say that their performance is average at best, but bang for buck they might be quite OK. (well they are only a cheap shock so u get what you pay for. good for those on a tight budget maybe)
They won't be staying there tho!!
96 Paj 2.8 TD 2" lift, Snorkel, LR Tank, Dual Batt, winch, 32 MTRs, RT tent and rack, polyairs etc
A couple of points in springer's post caught my eye.
If your shocks were doing a good job, you shouldn't be bouncing around the cabin too much.
"Too hot to touch" can be 50 Degrees C - well within the capabilities of shock absorbers.
The shock absorber is designed to absorb the energy that would otherwise make the car oscillate on its springs - "bounce around." That energy is transferred into heat, so if the shock absorber is working properly in rough terrain it WILL get hot - like they're designed to.
From the description of the terrain, the "bouncing around the cabin" comment and the temperature of the other shock absorbers I'd be worried about the blueriders - I don't think they are working properly.
Just 2c from a happy Nitrocharger owner
Scott
springer wrote:<snip>
Went on about 8 hour 4wd trip a few months ago real rough ground, all footy sized rocks going on for fricken ever was one of those trips you go on and just get sick of bouncing aorund the cabin.
If your shocks were doing a good job, you shouldn't be bouncing around the cabin too much.
springer wrote:Anyway near the end one of the hilux's with us stopped as had a clunking noise coming from the front end, though a shock was loose, wasn't anyway but noticed that his shocks were too hot to touch (nitrochargers) another with bilsteins checked theres and they were also red hot, but the blueriders were cold in the front and only luke warm in the back so they can't be too bad.
"Too hot to touch" can be 50 Degrees C - well within the capabilities of shock absorbers.
The shock absorber is designed to absorb the energy that would otherwise make the car oscillate on its springs - "bounce around." That energy is transferred into heat, so if the shock absorber is working properly in rough terrain it WILL get hot - like they're designed to.
From the description of the terrain, the "bouncing around the cabin" comment and the temperature of the other shock absorbers I'd be worried about the blueriders - I don't think they are working properly.
Just 2c from a happy Nitrocharger owner
Scott
Hahaha, Ok, I'll bite!!!
"If your shocks were doing a good job, you shouldn't be bouncing around the cabin too much."
If you were 4wding where we went you wouldn't be making this comment. Average rock size was the size of a sherrin and many steps and much larger rocks thrown in. We were driving over a mountain range of loose rock shale type ground I guess and was very bumpy, wheel off the ground all the time type of driving. Bouncing around the cabin was because of wheels falling off the other side of rocks or getting air and coming back down again etc, which was constantly happening because of the terrain.
It s quite common when I'm 4wding with friends in my vehcile or others to be bouncing around the cabin a little bit you might need to get off the bitumen more by the sounds of it.
Next
From the description of the terrain, the "bouncing around the cabin" comment and the temperature of the other shock absorbers I'd be worried about the blueriders - I don't think they are working properly.
Just for the record the other Toyota drivers on the day were giving the ol paj crap as they do and also complaining about how rough the track and ride were. to cut a long story short we swapped vehicles for a while and the other hilux's and cruiser that I drove were a hell of a lot more "bouncy" than the paj. Something they were pissed off to have to admit. Leaf springs in the hilux's obviously played a part with this too though.
For my money I reckon Rancho RS 5000 for $130 bucks would have to be hard to beat though.
"If your shocks were doing a good job, you shouldn't be bouncing around the cabin too much."
If you were 4wding where we went you wouldn't be making this comment. Average rock size was the size of a sherrin and many steps and much larger rocks thrown in. We were driving over a mountain range of loose rock shale type ground I guess and was very bumpy, wheel off the ground all the time type of driving. Bouncing around the cabin was because of wheels falling off the other side of rocks or getting air and coming back down again etc, which was constantly happening because of the terrain.
It s quite common when I'm 4wding with friends in my vehcile or others to be bouncing around the cabin a little bit you might need to get off the bitumen more by the sounds of it.
Next
From the description of the terrain, the "bouncing around the cabin" comment and the temperature of the other shock absorbers I'd be worried about the blueriders - I don't think they are working properly.
Just for the record the other Toyota drivers on the day were giving the ol paj crap as they do and also complaining about how rough the track and ride were. to cut a long story short we swapped vehicles for a while and the other hilux's and cruiser that I drove were a hell of a lot more "bouncy" than the paj. Something they were pissed off to have to admit. Leaf springs in the hilux's obviously played a part with this too though.
For my money I reckon Rancho RS 5000 for $130 bucks would have to be hard to beat though.
92 nh, 3.0 auto, 2' Body lift, cranked T/bars, 31' BFG's on outlaws.
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