ARB Spares.

Post by **Bitsamissin** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 9:01 pm

Does anyone know if ARB sell sell the airlocker compressor switch as one unit or you can buy just the plastic cover ?
Mine decided to fall off today as the internal plastic tabs had disintegrated.
You really need that cover to turn the compressor off/on.
ARB make a great product but some of the components are dodgy to say the least.

Post by **ToNkA** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 9:04 pm

Whats wrong with just a replcement switch, so many choices and probably cheaper than ARB. ONE with a light would be good.

Post by **Drafty** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 9:06 pm

Yea tell me about it, mine fell apart last night. the little plastic tabs disintigrate because of the heat from the bulb in the switch. My brother works at ARB i'll ask him next time i see him.

Post by **MissDrew** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 9:08 pm

Yes they do sell just the cover plate, but you`ll be buying them all the time as they break LOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Post by **RUFF** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 9:10 pm

Frank if you go to an auto electrical parts supplier with the switch they should be able to supply a new cover but it wont have the compressore emblum on it.
Also new Kenworths all run these exact switches in them if you have a KW dealer near by.

Post by **Drafty** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 9:13 pm

Are the KW switches any better than the ARB ones if they are nearly the same. Do they have the pretty blue light on them :?:

Post by **RUFF** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 9:17 pm

They are identical exept they have an orange lense i think. But they have a switch with an emblem for just about everything.

Post by **Drafty** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 9:19 pm

Sorry Ruff what i realy meant is are they any stronger or will they fall apart in same time as the ARB ones :?:

Post by **RUFF** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 9:34 pm

I cant realy answer that as when i work on them they usually still havent been sold yet but i guess they would be no better.

All 3 of mine broke a long time ago but they sit flat in my console so the pin in the centre still holds them in.
I wont be running any of the electrical ARB switches or solinoids when i re-assemble my rig. The electrical side of the ARB Airlocker system realy needs someone to re-design it as it is total crap everywhere.

Post by **Bitsamissin** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 9:37 pm

Yeah thanks guys.
I think Tonka's option maybe the go, put a decent switch in there once and for all. I just can't believe a company like ARB would let a great product down by using cheap stuff like that.
Thanks to Tony, I might check that as well.

Post by **Punchy** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 10:00 pm

hehehe

"Insert Purposeful jibe here"

Put a detroit locker in the front and back and you dont need a poxy switch at all :finger:

Post by **RUFF** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 10:14 pm

Ide rather replace a switch than replace a diff centre every second time you brake a CV or iner axle.

Post by **Wendle** » Mon Feb 10, 2003 6:06 am

has anyone here tried running straight air switches yet and pissing off the whole electrical side of the setup?

Post by **Carl Coight** » Mon Feb 10, 2003 6:22 am

Wendle wrote:has anyone here tried running straight air switches yet and pissing off the whole electrical side of the setup?

That's what the Volvo 6x6 dump trucks use and their loaders. They have a button on the floor and also a toggle air switch on the dash. 8)

Post by **bj on roids** » Mon Feb 10, 2003 7:14 am

Wendle wrote:has anyone here tried running straight air switches yet and pissing off the whole electrical side of the setup?

i will be running a 18 speed eaton shifter in my new rig, this has two air switches on the shifter, and can run a front and rear airlocker, no electrics needed 8)

Post by **bj on roids** » Mon Feb 10, 2003 7:15 am

RUFF wrote:Ide rather replace a switch than replace a diff centre every second time you brake a CV or iner axle.

this is a good point, ARBs are super strong, and are a full spool when engaged, detroits and all copies, still have some annoying side effects on street!

Post by **bj on roids** » Mon Feb 10, 2003 7:17 am

RUFF wrote:I cant realy answer that as when i work on them they usually still havent been sold yet but i guess they would be no better.

All 3 of mine broke a long time ago but they sit flat in my console so the pin in the centre still holds them in.
I wont be running any of the electrical ARB switches or solinoids when i re-assemble my rig. The electrical side of the ARB Airlocker system realy needs someone to re-design it as it is total crap everywhere.

I couldnt agree more on the wiring thing!

and when i saw the thread is was going to mention tonys airlocker switches, since ive known him the tops have been falling off, but thats okay, as every time ive seen him all the green lights are on, and his foot is on the hammer.

Post by **Wendle** » Mon Feb 10, 2003 7:58 am

bj on roids wrote:i will be running a 18 speed eaton shifter in my new rig, this has two air switches on the shifter, and can run a front and rear airlocker, no electrics needed 8)

Cool... I was thinking that it would make the initial cost of setting up air lockers cheaper too, If you were to run an engine driven compressor and use nothing from ARB other than the hemispheres. Machinery air switches are cheap and strong and reliable. They have big levers on them which wouldn't be bad either..

Post by **MissDrew** » Mon Feb 10, 2003 7:37 pm

Wendle wrote:
bj on roids wrote:i will be running a 18 speed eaton shifter in my new rig, this has two air switches on the shifter, and can run a front and rear airlocker, no electrics needed 8)

Cool... I was thinking that it would make the initial cost of setting up air lockers cheaper too, If you were to run an engine driven compressor and use nothing from ARB other than the hemispheres. Machinery air switches are cheap and strong and reliable. They have big levers on them which wouldn't be bad either..

This is what I am doing to my lux very soon (within the next 3 months anyway :roll:

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Post by **redrocket** » Mon Feb 10, 2003 9:33 pm

We use air switches at work for activating pto's and air tailgates on tippers and alot of the hydraulic companies sell them. You can get them in banks of 1,2,3 or 4 i think and they come with a pressure switch activated light so you know when they are on or not. They also come in a flush mount housing so you just cut a hole in tha dash and screw them in. I will find one tommrow and post a pic. I can proabably get a rough price on them as well so you know what to aim for.

Post by **RUFF** » Mon Feb 10, 2003 10:31 pm

redrocket wrote:We use air switches at work for activating pto's and air tailgates on tippers and alot of the hydraulic companies sell them. You can get them in banks of 1,2,3 or 4 i think and they come with a pressure switch activated light so you know when they are on or not. They also come in a flush mount housing so you just cut a hole in tha dash and screw them in. I will find one tommrow and post a pic. I can proabably get a rough price on them as well so you know what to aim for.

Yeah a price and a pic would be great these are what i plan on using.

Post by **redrocket** » Tue Feb 11, 2003 2:16 pm

ok i found some of those switches i talked about and you can look at some photos here http://pics.montypics.com/offroad_god/2 ... p_1330.jpg and also here http://pics.montypics.com/offroad_god/2 ... p_1328.jpg
They are used in trucks and are rated to hold over 100psi and will not break to easily like the arbs. They have a little pressure switch on them which can be hooked up to any sort of indicator light you want or you can use the one supplied. They are plumbed up with a supply line and a line to the locker and when the switch is turned off it dumps the pressure in the line to the locker thru a port in the switch so you still get that lilte pwssshhhh sound. The 2 bank switch is about $50 and the single is about $40.

Post by **bj on roids** » Tue Feb 11, 2003 2:40 pm

nice work redrocket, they fit the bill well!!

even have shiny bits

Post by **RUFF** » Tue Feb 11, 2003 8:27 pm

Redrocket you dont work at a place on Annie St a Coopers plains do you?

Post by **redrocket** » Tue Feb 11, 2003 8:45 pm

Nope. I work at Tefco Trailers at Murarrie next to the gateway bridge. Why you ask?

Post by **RUFF** » Tue Feb 11, 2003 8:48 pm

Nah its ok there is just a place that specialises in those hoist air switches in coopers plains and i thought i might be able to get a deal on some other parts i was looking for from there.

Post by **Carl Coight** » Tue Feb 11, 2003 8:58 pm

even have shiny bits

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MMMMM, shinny bits(Hommer Simpson) :shock:

Post by **MADSHORT** » Tue Feb 11, 2003 9:07 pm

Look the other option is to use a $2.00 toogle switch works just the same.
And you can get a shiny chrome one to if you want
And if you cant work out if its on or not add a $2.00 red,blue,green or what ever colour light you want

Madshort

Post by **RUFF** » Tue Feb 11, 2003 9:21 pm

MADSHORT wrote:Look the other option is to use a $2.00 toogle switch works just the same.
And you can get a shiny chrome one to if you want
And if you cant work out if its on or not add a $2.00 red,blue,green or what ever colour light you want

Madshort

Yeah then you still have the probs with the solinoids fouling up and the compressor failing and the conector plug to the compressor melting and the fuse holder melting and the pressure switch failing and the tank leaking because they are poorly cast where the O-ring is and the main shaft snapping on the compressor And And And And............................

Should i go on?

Every part of an ARB airlocker System exept the hemisphere is total crap.Its all cheap junk that is not realy up to the task.

If you set up an engine driven compressor and Air valves you are more than half way to solving the problems they have.

Post by **redrocket** » Tue Feb 11, 2003 10:42 pm

If you set up an engine driven compressor and Air valves you are more than half way to solving the problems they have.

Setting it up like this makes the whole system fool proof and so so easy to find a problem if you ever get one. What other parts were you looking for ruff? i might be able to get them.

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