Zook on a lean

Post by **crankycruiser** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:39 pm

Mate of mine just put 2" lifted tough dog springs in his Zook, the left hand side sits 2" higher than b4 but the right hand side sits 35mm lower than the left.
We swapped the springs to the other side but it still leans to the right ???
We r real confused as to whats goin on??
Could the chassis be bent??
Any ideas would b appreciated

Post by **fightara** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:48 pm

Did you swap both front and rear around?

I had exactly the same thing happen to my Vit when the springs were installed - apparently they were wrongly tagged ex-factory (I didn't install them).

However it was only the rears that had to be swapped. So I would imagine that if you swapped the front AND rear, the problem would still exist, if you get what I mean... You could always measure them up I guess. IIRC, the driver's side rear should be shorter than passenger. Not sure about fronts.

Liam from BigBalls was the guy who fixed all my probs up - maybe give him a call/PM if you still have issues - or a Tough Dog rep.

Post by **Beastmavster** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:16 pm

Get a fat biatch in the passenger seat.... they help with traction and if you get bogged you can always jettison cargo and leave her in the bush somewhere and you'll care less than if you left your spare tyre behind

:twisted:

Hmmm... maybe pushing PC a little too far but what the hell

Post by **Luigi Malone** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:27 am

Suzuki Viagra wrote:Get a fat biatch in the passenger seat.... they help with traction and if you get bogged you can always jettison cargo and leave her in the bush somewhere and you'll care less than if you left your spare tyre behind

Hmmm... maybe pushing PC a little too far but what the hell

Hell man.!!!!

"Oh her!. When she starts to look good, I know it's time to go back to the city" (Quoted from some Oz hunting mag) They'll come and get you.

The answer is in relocating weight, and carrying a passenger.
The spare is on the right, the petrol tank is on the right, the driver is on the right, the battery is on the right, and on and on.

I moved my spare inside and to the left side. And I load cargo to the left side also.

LM.

Post by **fightara** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:08 am

[quote="Luigi MaloneThe answer is in relocating weight, and carrying a passenger.
The spare is on the right, the petrol tank is on the right, the driver is on the right, the battery is on the right, and on and on.

I moved my spare inside and to the left side. And I load cargo to the left side also.

LM.[/quote]

But he mentioned that the lean only hapenned after he installed the new springs.

Post by **grimbo** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 10:51 am

Are we talking leaf or coils?

Leaf suspension has different springs per side to allow for the camber of the road (passenger side is slightly higher). Make sure that he got a passenger and driver side set, he may have accidently got two of the same side. Some suspension companies don't factor this into their lifted springs as it appears on Suzukis this effect is exxagerated by the short wheelbase and light weight.

Post by **suzukisam** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 12:01 pm

when i got some springs custom made i didn't realise there was a difference left to right and the front right was down by 35mm also. I got the front right reset up 35mm to compensate.

complain to your supplier, it just isn't good enough............ :twisted:

lester

Post by **Luigi Malone** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:18 am

The leaning seems to happen with lifted springs. They are more supple and react to weight shift more than Std.
As I said, Driver only plus all else causes it. Change the springs side to side and it's still there.
LM

Post by **zookjedi** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 7:34 pm

i had the same problem swapped leafs from side to side , ended up fixing it by swapping shocks :shock:

after that it sat level .
sold the leafs to my mate and installed them on his car and it sits level , turned out that one of my NEW shocks was on its way out , blew on first outing if i remmeber correctly

Post by **Squik** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:58 pm

Welcome to the age old phenomena (is that spelt right?) of "Suzuki Sag"
Just about every zook you see will either have it or end up like it, to varying degrees. I've heard of guys resetting their springs an inch higher on the drivers side to compensate.
Apparently - I am no expert, but this is what I overhear a lot - it's because everything is more to the drivers side - engine, transfer case, spare tyre, diffs etc.....so it just....well......sags

Post by **grimbo** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 8:21 am

stressed wrote:i had the same problem swapped leafs from side to side , ended up fixing it by swapping shocks after that it sat level .
sold the leafs to my mate and installed them on his car and it sits level , turned out that one of my NEW shocks was on its way out , blew on first outing if i remmeber correctly

a shock should have no bearing on the level of a car as they are not a structural part of the suspension, however I suppose on a very light car a seized shock might be able to hold some weight

Post by **christover1** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:27 am

grimbo wrote:
stressed wrote:i had the same problem swapped leafs from side to side , ended up fixing it by swapping shocks after that it sat level .
sold the leafs to my mate and installed them on his car and it sits level , turned out that one of my NEW shocks was on its way out , blew on first outing if i remmeber correctly

a shock should have no bearing on the level of a car as they are not a structural part of the suspension, however I suppose on a very light car a seized shock might be able to hold some weight

tho a stuffed shocker could shag the spring out quicker, maybe? christover

Post by **zookjedi** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:27 am

grimbo wrote:
stressed wrote:i had the same problem swapped leafs from side to side , ended up fixing it by swapping shocks after that it sat level .
sold the leafs to my mate and installed them on his car and it sits level , turned out that one of my NEW shocks was on its way out , blew on first outing if i remmeber correctly

a shock should have no bearing on the level of a car as they are not a structural part of the suspension, however I suppose on a very light car a seized shock might be able to hold some weight

thats right but i asure you it was the shock, remember a gas charged shock can and does hold weight and if one is stuffed it wont hold the same as the good one therefore allowing that side to sit slightly lower

Post by **fightara** » Sat Jul 10, 2004 9:55 am

Squik wrote:Welcome to the age old phenomena (is that spelt right?) of "Suzuki Sag"
Just about every zook you see will either have it or end up like it, to varying degrees. I've heard of guys resetting their springs an inch higher on the drivers side to compensate.
Apparently - I am no expert, but this is what I overhear a lot - it's because everything is more to the drivers side - engine, transfer case, spare tyre, diffs etc.....so it just....well......sags

Diffs ain't gonna change the sprung weight distribution...

Post by **Squik** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:54 pm

..diffs....good point

Like I said.....all overheard and ahh aint nooo ex-spert

Post by **crankycruiser** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:23 pm

thanks for all the replys fellas

Post by **Ric** » Fri Jul 16, 2004 9:04 am

we just got 2" OME in the hilux and it doesn't sit even.. I think it takes into account for the fuel tank, as its on the right hand side, and that side sits a touch higher than the left..

Post by **crankycruiser** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 9:55 pm

We finally fixed it.

Tough dog took bac the first set of springs (which were made in the land of much crap!!). and sent over a set of aussie made ones which r actually marked left and right.
Put the new ones in and wouldnt u know it it now sits nearly even, only 10 mm lower on the right as against 35mm b4.

any way just shows the quality difference of sum stuff when it is made over seas...

thanks for all the replys again
Ray

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