Shackle bolts + bushes

Post by **nicbeer** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 12:31 pm

ok,

What do people use for the bolts, high tensile?? what size is needed for the sierra extended shackles and length, I will be using 50x6mm material. I have been told that not to let the thread hit the bushes as it chews them out.(right?)

For the bushes, I have heard people drilling them but does this deteriate(sp) them quicker. I will be using the poly ones as suzuki does not have enough of the rubber ones left.

cheers

Post by **DeWsE** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 12:38 pm

Sorry nick but your being a bit unclear. Get bolts that are nylocked so you can keep them loose. The hi tensile bolts seem to rust hella quick making a crap surface for a bush to slide on.

Try to just use the old ones if they arn't to bad.

Post by **bigsteve** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 12:53 pm

I used Hi Tensile Bolts that have been chromed with Ni-locks

Post by **DeWsE** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 1:02 pm

That sounds about right.

Why not use the originals and replace the nut to nylock?

Post by **nicbeer** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 1:04 pm

Old ones are pitted and worn (19 years old). Don't think the orig zook ones are long enough for the new material. As you have said that, might look at stainless ones.

Mainly need what diameter people used for the pins. I should be able to work out length

cheers

Post by **bigsteve** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 1:05 pm

DeWsE wrote:That sounds about right.

Why not use the originals and replace the nut to nylock?

The originals are no way near as strong, but on a tight budget I guess its an option. But running them loose I prefer something a bit stronger.

Post by **sierrajim** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 1:07 pm

Will stainless be strong enough? The bolt will have a fair amount of load on it.

If you're worried about rust why not just apply some brease every now and then.

Personally i would look at high tensile.

Post by **grimbo** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 2:51 pm

I have used high tensile bolts and nylocks with a bit of slack in them. I wouldn't recommend using stainless bolts on a suspension component as it isn't anywhere as strong. It is fine for bolting things together that aren't experiencing huge amounts of variable force like a shackle would

Post by **nicbeer** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 3:42 pm

Mild is the go then. Just have to look around for some right length bolts. + rust proof paint / oil.

What diameter is needed for the zook, M12?

cheers

Post by **DeWsE** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 3:53 pm

I thought every one said hi tensile with nylocks. Where did mild come from?

Post by **nicbeer** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 4:45 pm

OOps, i meant hi-tensile.

Found out stainless gets brittle from another post.

cheers

Post by **85zook** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 7:13 pm

ever considered greasable shackles?

Post by **bigsteve** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 7:35 pm

85zook wrote:ever considered greasable shackles?

Sounds like a sex toy

Post by **nicbeer** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 7:40 pm

Greasable shackles...

Hard to find over here and they don't make them extended. (I think)

cheers

Post by **bigsteve** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 7:43 pm

nicbeer wrote:Greasable shackles...

Hard to find over here and they don't make them extended. (I think)

cheers

Plus they don't flex and are too expensive to scrape over rocks.

Post by **85zook** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 8:08 pm

well why mnot just buy extended shackles?? at least you know they wont break and their only $39 a pop from auto alliance!!

Post by **runnin4life** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 8:47 pm

is that $39 for 2 (left 'n' right) or just one

Post by **85zook** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 9:04 pm

sorry i meant to say $30.80 each.

Post by **85zook** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 9:04 pm

for left or right front or rear.

Post by **runnin4life** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 8:13 am

so that's $30.80 for just one shackle not bad as ive seen some like $100 for a pair and they were just greasable not even extended

Post by **mudfkr** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:01 pm

nicbeer wrote:Mild is the go then. Just have to look around for some right length bolts. + rust proof paint / oil.

What diameter is needed for the zook, M12?

cheers

the originals have a step in them, the part thats inside the bushes is 14mm and the thread is 12mm. Just drill your shackle to 14mm and run a 14mm Class 8 bolt (you know the one with the funny 8.8 thing stamped on the head?) right through it.
Shane

Post by **85zook** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:14 pm

have a look at the auto alliance ad as couple of pages into most issues of 4wd monthly. they have some info on their shackles there.

Post by **nicbeer** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 10:51 pm

Cheers for the info.

Bought the steel now 50x8mm and now buying the bolts when I get the ruf kit and the springs soon.

cheers

Post by **Wesley** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:56 pm

[quote="nicbeer"]Greasable shackles...

Hard to find over here and they don't make them extended. (I think)

???? hard to find in perth have u been to any shops???? Ive never had a problem finding anything in perth there are heeps of 4wd shops that cater for all 4wd's try the yellow pages there all in there or u can ring up Arb, opposite lock, 4wd usa to name a few, or if u know some one with a lathe get them to make you some.

Post by **nicbeer** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 11:49 pm

In Perth if you have the $$$$ that I don't have.

All the ones you named + TJM are rip off merchants (As I see it).

Making em now so little dollars

cheers

Post by **DeWsE** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 11:52 am

nicbeer wrote:In Perth if you have the $$$$ that I don't have.

All the ones you named + TJM are rip off merchants (As I see it).

Making em now so little dollars

cheers

Thats not the attitude nicbeer, they may be a bit pricy but 4bing is an expensive sport.

Mine cost $15 for material and $18 for bolts which equals 33 bucks. Let me know when your available and you can come round and check things out. i'll help you make as well if you want.

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