Shackles/bodylift on a 60 series

Post by **Birlo** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:26 pm

Hey I think I've asked this several times
but......
Shackles are find with mild steel??
and how big is recommended? 2 inch, 3 inch, hell 8 inch
Just need an average
As for the body lift... (if ya see this Old Yella you told me that I could get spacers from Clarke Rubber - What type? I went in there and they had know Idea what I was on with...)
What spacers are recommended? Aluminium, rubber, polyester?
Also where do I get the bolts for bodylift and shackle pins around Newy??
ummmmm...... Thats all
Thanks
If anyone knows - could they include Prices as well??

Post by **hypo** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:35 pm

get bolts from either NEWCASTLE HI-TENSILE over on industrial highway or MULLINGS at cardiff, make sure u use grade 8 bolts.. i got my b/l blocks from trident plastics at cardiff cant remember a price tho sorry

Post by **Birlo** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:56 pm

Thanks mate
Your rigs runnin' yet?
We may be goin' for a wato's run on Sunday morn.
We'll let ya know through Anthony
Also what type of blocks and average length for 'xtended shackles

Post by **DIRTY ROCK STAR** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 11:35 am

high n mighty was selling blocks before i think???

could be wrong?

Post by **stumped** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 4:18 pm

DIRTY ROCK STAR wrote:high n mighty was selling blocks before i think???

could be wrong?

he was, $12 each. dunno if he's still sellin or not tho

Post by **Birlo** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 5:14 pm

Who's High and Mighty?
and does anyone know how many blocks I would need?

Post by **DIRTY ROCK STAR** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:04 pm

high n mighty = craig. he works at camping world and pippys i think.

hes on here a fair bit?? or he was???

dude PM some of the 60 nuts! they will know off the top of their head.

p.s you blow goats and other furry animals!

Post by **Birlo** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:30 pm

That ain't real nice!!!!!
yeah I might but I don't know any "60 Nuts" as you say!
Ummm.... Watos sunday round 7ish? Let me know
I'll even get on
Does anyone know about the blocks? I'm was goin' tommorrow
and whats advised for body lift?
Its standard - but I'm gunna fit 33's, 35's if possible
one,two,three or four inches? I just want an average Thats all
So if anyone knows
Please.....
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Post by **high n mighty** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 12:28 am

Hello again guys.........

2' blocks, 2' diamater $12 each, nylon

Not sure how many a 60 needs but maybe 14???? If your in Newy Come around and we'll have look. Hypo was right with ya bolts or also try CDA construction products in Georgetown. Pm me if you want to know more mate.

Post by **high n mighty** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 12:29 am

Oh, and thanks for the lil plugs guys, much appreciated :D

Post by **brighty** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 8:14 am

I'm run'n 33's on some re-set leaves to 1.5-2inch higher and 2" extened shackles. Everything seems to work ok.... the steering was a tad bit more receptive to turning on freeway but no major drama. Anything bigger than 2" extention plays too much with the steering camber(think thats what it is??)... have heard of people buying wedges to put under the leaf pack to correct this, but not sure where to get them or even how legal they are!!!!

Lift blocks are easily engineered to 2" anything over that the engineers start getting really picky with shifting weight load of body etc, so I'd only go with the 2". And you'd need 12 blocks too, just incase you needed to know.

If you need an engineer, contact Athol Mullen at,
Mullen Automotive Engineering
24 Newcastle St
Cardiff 02 4956 8030

This guy is really good, have a chat with him and he'll give you all the info you need for engineering req'ments.

Hope thats of some help.

BTW, what tracks you gunna tackle up the wato's???? :lol:

Post by **carts** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 8:19 am

You'll need 12 blocks for a 60.

2 inch shackle extensions are the norm, and that will give ya approximately 1 inch of lift. It will decrease your approach angle ever so slightly, but should allow the suspension to flex well.

If ya wanna run 35's, 2inch body, 2 inch suspension will do the trick!

Post by **high n mighty** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 11:11 am

Athol Mullen will not allow extended shackles, already asked. Talk to Hypo, he knows of some reasonable engineers ;)

Post by **DIRTY ROCK STAR** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:08 pm

high n mighty,

no problems on the plugs, you just remember that commision we talked about for me pimping you out........ hehe.

and hypo would know the dodgiest people around..... except for me.
im the GOOD person he knows but thats another story!

Post by **high n mighty** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:32 pm

Dodgy doesn't matter when you have a certificate in your hand does it

If engineers where straight down the line you would be defected in brand new dunnydores though :rofl:

Post by **stumped** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:59 pm

high n mighty wrote:2' blocks, 2' diamater $12 each, nylon

2 foot body lift, that's HUGE!!!

i've talked to that mullen's bloke before, he was soooooooo anti-bodylift! wanted heaps of tests done, brake test fully laden, unladen, tested to failure, front disengaged, rear disengaged, plus heaps of other stuff :shock:

Post by **lay80n** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 6:22 pm

I could be goin out on a limb here, but i think Craig means 2 inch for his blocks. Too many coffees steve.
Layto....

Post by **brighty** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 8:10 pm

I've only been to see him once bout a roof chop.... was askin a few questions bout liting it didn't seem too bad..... ahhh well if there are any easier engineers about, let me know.

Post by **Birlo** » Sat Jul 24, 2004 1:47 am

Thanks fellows
2inch body and 2inch shackle it is
As for the Wato's we want to try Slippery at least - I've got up there... Standard
But I won't if I can't get a bigger car than a zook
I'd also like to look at rope road, rock at the end s'posed to be a doozy but hey 60's go anywhere
Alright thanks for that guys - if anyones interested in Wato's PM ne by tommorow arvo - I'll be on around 5ish and I'll PM you'se the meeting Place
Another thing - Original bolts in the body/chassis but they look like they have the reach for 2inches of Lift
Advice? New bolts?
And would I need to buy new shackle pins?

Post by **lay80n** » Sat Jul 24, 2004 9:54 am

By shackle pins do you mean the pins that locate the fixed eye of the leaf to the chassis?? When we do ya shackles the whole shackle is replaces. The pin is at the other end of the leaf, and wont be touched. You dont realy need new pins, though when we have ya car up in the air i could check em if ya worried bout them.
Layto....

Post by **high n mighty** » Sun Jul 25, 2004 1:43 pm

You can simply punch out your original pins and re-use them. thats what I did with my last ones.

Post by **carts** » Sun Jul 25, 2004 8:41 pm

as for the bolts for the body lift- you will need new ones. The originals wont be long enough for a 2 inch lift. Having said that, 4 bolts are about 2 inches longer than the other 8, so you can use these 4 to go in the place of the shorter bolts when you put the lift blocks in.

If you are worried about strength, get a slightly bigger bolt diameter wise than the originals. Drill out the chassis mounts and rubbers. Up to you really, although its probably easier to get bolts with the same diameter as the originals.

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