New model GU ?'s

Post by **XFACTOR** » Sun Jul 11, 2004 6:31 pm

hey, is it true that there is a nissan 4.5L diesel coming out in september?? as i was reading in 4x4 australia and they say that there 'might' be a 4.5 coming out..so yeh does anyone know anything about it?? as where trading our 2000 model GU in for a new model..but if theres a 4.5 we'd rather wait..

so yeh any info??

thanks ryan :cool:

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Post by **Mat** » Sun Jul 11, 2004 8:47 pm

which issue was this in ?
Mat

Post by **XFACTOR** » Sun Jul 11, 2004 8:55 pm

Mat wrote:which issue was this in ?
Mat

at the front of the current 4x4 australia mag...issue no 247

and apparently the american line of nissan is coming here too..the titan, and the morana or something..

ryan :cool:

Post by **buger man** » Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:35 pm

HOPE you are right

,bring them on :armsup:

carnt wait :armsup:

Post by **XFACTOR** » Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:37 pm

buger man wrote:HOPE you are right ,bring them on carnt wait

it sais in the magazine that there 'might be' so i dunno

hopefully though

Post by **morkz** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 7:37 am

well i have heard that it aint a 4.5..... it's 4.8 apparently it's already here in australia and they are testing it it's rumoured to have over 180kw and over 660 Nm some of the reason why they are testing this is because the damn thing keeps on breaking axles and diff centers and i believe the figueres abover are detuned figures..

Your all probably wondering how i know... well when i was purchasing my new Gu i kept on asking questions about this so called new model they dont even know but Nissan people told me their are new model coming out but no new patrol maybe in 2006 but they cant say.

I got all this information from someone at nissan in melbourne (blackburn dealership) so it may be true or may not their are heaps of rumours going around.

cheers

Post by **Evan** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 4:15 pm

Its not often we would get the engine before any other model in any other country, and as far as i know nissan dont have any new 4.5l or 4.8l 6cyl turbo diesel engines.
I searched for TD45, TD48, ZD45, ZD48 and got nothing.
A ZD45 would be exactly a ZD30 x 1.5 = ZD45.

We can only hope.
I am in japan in a week and a half so i will see what i can find out.

E

Post by **GUJohnno** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 7:58 pm

If they do bring a new 4.5 or 4.8ltr diesel it would prob be high-tec. Not bush friendly. The prob is the new diesels need good fuel. Not a prob if you stay close to the city but could be a prob if doing outback stuff. I've bought the current TD-6 which after 35,000 kms is going great. Did a trip to Flinders Rangers the other week and got 13l/100kms on the way up. Pretty good with a load on, 3" lift and running 35's. And there's plenty that can be done to improve performance if needed. Thing is the current motor is a proven reliable motor.

Post by **XFACTOR** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:00 pm

'apparently' the 4.5l Diesel will be the same motor as the 3 litre but with two more cylinders (spelling) added...not sure

Post by **GUJohnno** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:01 pm

If they do bring a new 4.5 or 4.8ltr diesel it would prob be high-tec. Not bush friendly. The prob is the new diesels need good fuel. Not a prob if you stay close to the city but could be a prob if doing outback stuff. I've bought the current TD-6 which after 35,000 kms is going great. Did a trip to Flinders Rangers the other week and got 13l/100kms on the way up. Pretty good with a load on, 3" lift and running 35's. And there's plenty that can be done to improve performance if needed. Thing is the current motor is a proven reliable motor.

Post by **roly** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:09 pm

the 4.5 diesel has been rumoured for 4 years. I personally wouldnt buy 1 if it is a 3.0 with 2 more cylinders as it will have all the electronics that go with it, thats the reason i got out of a 3.0 and into a 4.2....

seeing aust is one of the only markets thats gets the 4.2 nowadays i wouldn't see nissan/renault spending all that cash for 1 market.

i'd say we are stuck with the oldschool 4.2Tdi until nissan drop it and then we only have the 3.0 only.

Roly

Post by **XFACTOR** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:32 pm

yeh we will proberly be gettign a 4.2 agian..

in a few years nissan will proberly go IFS like toyota?

Post by **GUJohnno** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:49 pm

Problem is the old 4.2 meeting tougher exhaust restrictions. It only just scraped through last time with the intercooler and the gas re-circulating. It might be an old engine, but after a few k's on the clock goes quite good.

Post by **bogged** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:58 pm

XFACTOR wrote:'apparently' the 4.5l Diesel will be the same motor as the 3 litre but with two more cylinders (spelling) added...not sure

Oh joy... that will be a winner, that means 4.2 GU's will go thru the roof in price...

Post by **XFACTOR** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:22 pm

bogged wrote:
XFACTOR wrote:'apparently' the 4.5l Diesel will be the same motor as the 3 litre but with two more cylinders (spelling) added...not sure

Oh joy... that will be a winner, that means 4.2 GU's will go thru the roof in price...

lol..why do u say that?? because the 3 litres suck?

Post by **bogged** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:31 pm

XFACTOR wrote:lol..why do u say that?? because the 3 litres suck?

What do you think?? Look at what technology does for you?

Specially when you get stuck out in the bush, and you have no idea how to do anything with it, and neither does the bloke at the 100,000hectare property you broke down at..

YMMV

Post by **MQ080** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:36 pm

XFACTOR wrote:in a few years nissan will proberly go IFS like toyota?

If it wan'ts more of the market share it will.

I've heard the 4.5L talk for about 2yrs when it surfaced of the yahoo patrol list but without any solid news, it's just that all talk.

In my opinion the TD42 as old as it is, by far and away is a better donk than the ZD30, which do you think will still be around in number in 10 years?

Post by **turps** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:34 pm

I think there will still be a large diesel engine for the aus market. There is bound to be an engine that fits the bill from the nissan truck range. Its that or they will sure the manufacturing costs

Post by **DRV11T** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 1:02 pm

i don't care what power it has, I just don't like the look of them!

Check out the pic's at

http://www.patrol4wd.org

Mark

Post by **turps** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 1:29 pm

DRV11T wrote:i don't care what power it has, I just don't like the look of them!

Check out the pic's at

http://www.patrol4wd.org

Mark

Yep good point the ugly bits are the front and rear bumper. If I ever had the cash to buy one, the Front and rear bumpers would last about a week before the replaced with proper steel stuff. So I dont really see the problem.

Post by **XFACTOR** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 5:14 pm

our plastic bumpers will alst about a day lol..so will the low rider suspension and all

yes the 05 models look fugly..if that model is the one coming out in september that will be Grimace..lol..hopefully theres a late 04 in september

the rear lights make it look like a pajero at the back..it looks square like a 60 series...the flares will also be a problem..becaus eit looks like there part of the panels..pain in the a$$ if u knock one..

ryan :cool:

Post by **flexy trol** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 5:59 pm

One can only hope that nissan pull there finger out because my friend has a 79 series efi turbo cruiser ute and up againts my patrol well it's almost embaressing.

Post by AJ » Thu Jul 22, 2004 3:20 pm

Photo of a European spec 2005 Patrol has been added to the homepage at:

www.patrol4wd.org

Post by **bogged** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 4:29 pm

turps wrote:Yep good point the ugly bits are the front and rear bumper, and all parts inbetween them...

correct, if you want a Navara, buy one, then if you want a paj, buy one of them too, bring back tuff looking 4wds...

Post by **haycait** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 11:49 am

Bugga the 4.5 ltr diesel

I am getting a bit of movement downstairs at the thought of the V8 petrol version that they are proposing :multi:

Post by **bogged** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 12:19 pm

haycait wrote:I am getting a bit of movement downstairs at the thought of the V8 petrol version that they are proposing

you havent seen how expensive the 4.8 is to run, or the 4.5....

wait for the V8...

Post by **XFACTOR** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 9:13 pm

yes, the V8 should chew lots of fuel..

Post by **turps** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 10:07 pm

Just on another note I seen a Black LHD car in Richmond (VIC) the other day. Looked sort of like that new Nissan Soft roader, was about the size of the territory. Went for a 2nd look but by the time I had gone around the block it was gone.

Post by **bundyboy** » Sun Jul 25, 2004 11:42 am

I am buying a GU coil cab soon and was reading some write ups from early last year, they were waiting for the 4.8 then so i think it has been on the cards for a while... :roll:

Post by **MikeP** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 10:11 am

I heard that the 4.2 is to be phased out as it will b unable to meet the new emission control requirements. Although it is a bloody good donk it is a bit 'long in the tooth' and would be too costly to up grade. I've got a 3LTD but a mate has a 4.2L turbo, he's a bit worried that if the 4.2 is scrapped will parts still be available down the track?

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