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M&M McZook Buildup

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M&M McZook Buildup

Post by Mczook »

Finally got around to taking some pics of the build of McZook.....

Features Gonads Gear(tm)

Cage
Stinger Winch Bar
Rear Bar with hitch
Custom front & rear suspension
Other Secret stuff

And

A little bit of poser flexing on forklift

Happy to answer any questions
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Post by mudfkr »

Nice work :armsup:
one suggestion thou.. you might want a think about putting a front drive shaft on too :lol:

(small thread rob.... do you market calmini products ? and if you do how doe's one contact you cause you don't have an email addy in your profile :? )


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Post by droopypete »

looks good, what are you doing for rear lights?
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Post by Barathrum »

so how much will it cost to purchase a stinger bar and a cage?
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Post by redzook »

why does the cage go over targa bar? (i think thats what it is called?) so u cant run a soft top?

are you goin to retain the rear coils?
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Post by Mudzuki »

Nice work, will the bar take a hi or low mount?
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Post by sierrajim »

Stinger bar looks good. any reason for the cage design as it is?
[quote="Harb"]Well I'm guessing that they didn't think everyone would carry on like a big bunch of sooky girls over it like they have........[/quote]
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Post by Mczook »

G'day Guys

The zook was getting finalised and probably will for some time, but heh thats the fun side of customising.The photos were taken when we were measuring up the Procomp shock lengths.

Sharp eyes around, someone was correct about the drive shalf it is missing in the front. There is a custom one now since the pics were taken, we are also likely to make a rear one in the future to match the rear 80s HP but for now its cool.

The bar is a high mount winch bar and we made it so we need to cut a small amount of the front grill away to ensure good approach. It is a prototype but I am very happy with it. In the future we may make some mods just so we can fit the intercooler in the front and out of the engine bay.

I have LED lights I got from Narva but at the moment I am not driving the car daily so they are not connected up.

I know there was a question about the spring but I am not sure of the question, but i think you are asking would I change to leaf, and there is no way I would go back, because of my back.

I do get Calmini products through Spidertrax, basically because Tom (Spidertrax) and Steve (Calmini) have such a good business relationship I get better prices through Tom than if I approach Calmini alone (Oz is still a small market for Calmini but we are hoping and expect to change this). You can PM or contact me or Matt on 02 45879811 and we will help you in everyway we can.

The Cage had to be made to meet Mr MMM so we could still compete in the XWCC series. I am tool tall to have the bar go directly behind my head without breaking the driver clearance specs, besides i reckon it looks a mile better. Unfortunately, competition rules are conradicting each other so we tried to fit within all the regs which meant we had to compremise on some of the this we wanted to do, but heh that what you have to do to enter comps. My preference was for a Exo chassis mounted cage but Mr MMM would not allow it even though CAMS rules were OK with it.

I will make a list of all the mods and fabrication done and post it up next time I have a chance. Some of you guys will have to forgive me with the internet etiquette I am still a new and computer illiterate. I have a website being built at the moment which will have listings of all the products I import and the products Matt at M&M makes, so hopefully some of you will visit it. We are also taking pics of all the truck built buy M&M just so people can associate a truck with the builder.

Cheers
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PS any question I can help with I will try.
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Post by bigsteve »

Mczook wrote:The Cage had to be made to meet Mr MMM so we could still compete in the XWCC series. I am tool tall to have the bar go directly behind my head without breaking the driver clearance specs,


What are the minimum clearances???

Looking good!!!


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Post by Bad JuJu »

I think its 150 mm
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Post by bigsteve »

Bad JuJu wrote:I think its 150 mm


So if allow 150 MM head clearance I shouldn't have any issues entering any competitions??
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Post by Mczook »

G'day All

BAD JuJu was correct it had to be 150mm from the back/above drivers head which includes the helmet. We could of jammed it in but it would have been a bit of touch and go so rather leave it up to Mr MMM to say no go, we put it above.

And, at the end of the day I was glad it was a bit higher (more room for the fat pennut head) and it look better. The small problem was I had to get a extra strip in the soft top. However, the kids cant sit in the back anymore so now I am going to change to a bikini top.

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Post by Gordo »

Schmick barwork man, do you do stinger bars for Jeeps ?
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Post by Mczook »

Hey Goat Lover - Gordo

Matt makes the all the bars to suit the customers 4be. You probably wouldnt need the roll cage to go over the B pillar though. I am sure all the barwork would look just as mad on a jeep regardless of what model, especially the stinger bar.
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Post by Bad JuJu »

Looks pretty good, whats the rear suspension setup ?
5 link or 3 link??
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Post by redzook »

Bad JuJu wrote:Looks pretty good, whats the rear suspension setup ?
5 link or 3 link??


whats the front to?? looks like coily setup?

i didnt think the coily setup worked any good?

anypics side on flexed? looks like a bit of rear steer?

i like the rear bar :cool:
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Post by planb »

looks good sean

so when can i expect those mickey t wheels in the mail ?? :lol:
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Post by Mczook »

whats the front to?? looks like coily setup?

i didnt think the coily setup worked any good?

anypics side on flexed? looks like a bit of rear steer?

i like the rear bar


Hey Guys

No it is all custom. The rear:

1) has two lower arms and 1 upper arm with custom M&M swivel joint. To ensure the diff doesnt move around too much it has a combo of a Spidertrax & M&M adjustable panhard.
2) the rear diff housing is a Bundera (shaved and gussetted) unit with offset pumkin running a 4.1 LandCruiser HP centre and full Detroit locker,
3)The body sits on Vitara wagon springs using the original Vitara bump stop and the springs sit in the original bundera coil cups,
4) if you look close the lower arms hang from GQ arm mounts.

The Front:
1)Front housing is a bundera unit (shaved and gussetted) with again 80s LC 4.1 centre and a Detroit Truetrac,
2)the diffs are attached with 80s radius arms for strength & stability which scarifices some wheel travel- may change in the future for a 5 link but as the truck is mainly setup for winch challenges the 80s arm will do the trick for now,
3) Custom M&M panhard keep the diff in place,
4)body sits on Vitara wagon HD springs with custom upper spring mounts & bump stop, the diff spring coil cup mounts are the original bundy ones.

I have some more photos i just gotta wait for my buddy to help me post them as I am hopeless with computer stuff. There is some other trick things we are running but once again need to get a buddy to take some more pic and when this happens Ill post them.

No rear steer but hey ya never know. I like the rear bar it came out well and its Fu$&^$@ strong too. Pitty my LED Narva lights didnt exactly fit!

Cheers
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Post by raqmup »

anypics side on flexed? looks like a bit of rear steer?l:[/quote]

Not rear steer redzook, just rear panhard, brakelines and handbrake lines, looks the part though huh! ;)
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Post by tozook »

mczook how much are the Stinger hi mount Winch Bar :armsup: :armsup:
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Post by toysuzi »

your works come along way gonads
since the ole yellow dual cab

very nice :armsup:

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Post by OVERKILL ENG »

Looking sweet pity about the short ugly fella in the photo,s :D :D :D :D :D
Is the stinger offset or just the angle of the photo :?:
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Post by antt »

Mczook wrote:
whats the front to?? looks like coily setup?

i didnt think the coily setup worked any good?

anypics side on flexed? looks like a bit of rear steer?

i like the rear bar


Hey Guys

No it is all custom. The rear:

1) has two lower arms and 1 upper arm with custom M&M swivel joint. To ensure the diff doesnt move around too much it has a combo of a Spidertrax & M&M adjustable panhard.
2) the rear diff housing is a Bundera (shaved and gussetted) unit with offset pumkin running a 4.1 LandCruiser HP centre and full Detroit locker,
3)The body sits on Vitara wagon springs using the original Vitara bump stop and the springs sit in the original bundera coil cups,
4) if you look close the lower arms hang from GQ arm mounts.

The Front:
1)Front housing is a bundera unit (shaved and gussetted) with again 80s LC 4.1 centre and a Detroit Truetrac,
2)the diffs are attached with 80s radius arms for strength & stability which scarifices some wheel travel- may change in the future for a 5 link but as the truck is mainly setup for winch challenges the 80s arm will do the trick for now,
3) Custom M&M panhard keep the diff in place,
4)body sits on Vitara wagon HD springs with custom upper spring mounts & bump stop, the diff spring coil cup mounts are the original bundy ones.

I have some more photos i just gotta wait for my buddy to help me post them as I am hopeless with computer stuff. There is some other trick things we are running but once again need to get a buddy to take some more pic and when this happens Ill post them.

No rear steer but hey ya never know. I like the rear bar it came out well and its Fu$&^$@ strong too. Pitty my LED Narva lights didnt exactly fit!

Cheers
Sean


this is good news ;) :D , i thought they'd be close, but this has confirmed it
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Post by Mczook »

anypics side on flexed? looks like a bit of rear steer?l:


Not rear steer redzook, just rear panhard, brakelines and handbrake lines, looks the part though huh! [/quote]

Your on the money raqmup no rear steer, however anythings possible, well if I had the money. We did a rear disc break conversion which we now have a full jig for. For my conversion we matched up some subaru calipars so I can run the hand brake off them too. I'll get some better pics so you guys can check them out.
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Post by raqmup »

Just trickin' my vit rear axels up too, with vit discs 'n carolla callipers- they fit nice! runnin' w/t sierra front and vit rear under my '85 sierra :cool:

white thing is old set up, coily is similar to my spring over set up, hi-steer 'n all, minus the coils- of course... watcha think? (steering mainly?) :lol:

by the way, the coily is faaaar from finished, it's not mine- just an example, roughly, of what mine will have on it
soz, just had to say that 'cause I caused a riot last time these pics were posted :roll:
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Post by redzook »

Mczook wrote:
raqmup wrote:
redzook wrote:anypics side on flexed? looks like a bit of rear steer?l:


Not rear steer redzook, just rear panhard, brakelines and handbrake lines, looks the part though huh!


Your on the money raqmup no rear steer, however anythings possible, well if I had the money. We did a rear disc break conversion which we now have a full jig for. For my conversion we matched up some subaru calipars so I can run the hand brake off them too. I'll get some better pics so you guys can check them out.


:rofl: i was talkin as the suspension travels the drooped wheel comes a fair way forward ;) so any pics of it flexed side on to show the rear steer?
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Post by cj »

raqmup wrote:Just trickin' my vit rear axels up too, with vit discs 'n carolla callipers- they fit nice! runnin' w/t sierra front and vit rear under my '85 sierra :cool:


Why Vit discs over Sierra fronts and what year/model Corolla?
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Post by raqmup »

unsure what year carolla- I'm not skillfull enough to do the conversion myself, I'll find out 4ya! :D
Vit discs 'cause I had em lying around and selling the n/t diffs complete w/ brakes front and rear ;)
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Post by Mczook »

G'day Guys

Sorry for the delay on prices, had to confirm with Matt.

Standard "Gonad's Gear" Stinger bars: from $660

"Gonad's Gear" Winch Stinger Bars: from $1050:
But if you want a bar like mine where there is 2 extra bolts & mounts on each chassis rail that will be Approx $250-350. In this case Matt drills 2 extra bolt holes in each chassis rail and then crush tubes them for extra strength.

"Gonad's Gear" Rear tube bars: From $550 depending on material used and vehicle

Roll Cages: from $1,250 for standard and go up depending on what tube material used and number of mounting points.

For quote on your vehicle best call Matt on 02 45879811

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Post by Mczook »

Hi guys,

Here are some pics of the rear disc brake convo - enjoy !
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