Spools

Post by **roc box** » Sat Aug 07, 2004 4:55 pm

having said that my mate only has lockd rear try to follow my line and got stuck had to go round

Post by **brocky** » Sat Aug 07, 2004 4:55 pm

i do know a guy who has a wide track diff with airlocker fitted that he wants to sell, i think he want $1000.oo for the complete diff if any one is interested you can ring me at work. qld 4wd spares and repairs. 07 32562300. what i would suggest though is to first drive a suzi that has a welded rear in it on the rod for half a day and if you still want to do it. ring me i have a wt 1.3 welded diff at work that we want $110.00 for it. but no wty.thank you again

Post by **brocky** » Sat Aug 07, 2004 5:20 pm

i do know a guy who has a wide track diff with airlocker fitted that he wants to sell, i think he want $1000.oo for the complete diff if any one is interested you can ring me at work. qld 4wd spares and repairs. 07 32562300. what i would suggest though is to first drive a suzi that has a welded rear in it on the rod for half a day and if you still want to do it. ring me i have a wt 1.3 welded diff at work that we want $110.00 for it. but no wty.thank you again

Post by **Bad JuJu** » Sat Aug 07, 2004 5:54 pm

Gunna give this a shot, don't have to wreck a whole center just some side gears..

http://www.island4x4.com/4x4tech/axle/w ... index.html

Post by **N*A*M** » Sat Aug 07, 2004 6:44 pm

oh yeah forgot to mention, with the welded rear, i have enough traction such that i spent most of my time in 2H and would only go to 4L if i got stuck. i would rate welded 2H better than open 4H, if you know what i mean.

Post by **DeWsE** » Sat Aug 07, 2004 7:27 pm

N*A*M wrote:oh yeah forgot to mention, with the welded rear, i have enough traction such that i spent most of my time in 2H and would only go to 4L if i got stuck. i would rate welded 2H better than open 4H, if you know what i mean.

I hear you loud and clear!

Post by **RB zook** » Sat Aug 07, 2004 7:32 pm

i emailed a diff place in kograh today and asked them about mini spools.

hopefully i could get em for like 150 each.

Post by **muppet_man67** » Sat Aug 07, 2004 7:54 pm

N*A*M wrote:oh yeah forgot to mention, with the welded rear, i have enough traction such that i spent most of my time in 2H and would only go to 4L if i got stuck. i would rate welded 2H better than open 4H, if you know what i mean.

perhaps when the ground is really uneven but you still only have the traction of 2 wheels at best rather then 4 at best.

Post by **SiKiD_01** » Sat Aug 07, 2004 9:12 pm

hey RB zook, did u just say you might be able to get a spool for $150 or something?

very very interested now.

can you let us know, or keep us updated.

thanks

Post by **Dozoor** » Sat Aug 07, 2004 11:59 pm

There used to be an Alternative to spools and welding , Don,t know if he is still there used to have a web site but can,t find it,
The guy done a lot of speed way sedan ect , Cost was around $150
you just took your centre to him and he'd fill the centre with a metal, alloy of some type , Don,t get this mixed up with a lead locker,
He Gives a gurantee that the job he does is good , but it is just like a spool or welded ,so its for off road use only Right

Name was ARROW DIFFS taren Piont nsw,

Ps those that don,t know a Lead locker is filling the hemisphere with molten lead .

Larry.

Post by **lay80n** » Sun Aug 08, 2004 2:26 pm

RB zook wrote:i emailed a diff place in kograh today and asked them about mini spools.

hopefully i could get em for like 150 each.

If you can get em for that price Ryan, put me down for one deffinatley! :twisted:

. We were lookin at $250 or bit more landed i think.
Cheers mate
Layto....

Post by **muppet_man67** » Sun Aug 08, 2004 4:40 pm

whats the point in paying $250 for a mini spool when you can buy a second hand welded center for $100 all the benifits of a minispool in that your original diff wont be stuffed but less than half the price.

Post by **lay80n** » Sun Aug 08, 2004 5:12 pm

Up here decent 2nd hand centres arent fallin out the sky. :cry:

Wreckers want like $350 or so, and private you lookin at like $200 and that not welded. Im happy with the centre i got now (Thanks Steve

) so can fit mini spool easily, and if dont like it remove it without having to source another centre like welding. Probably not have much hassle selling it too. Also mini spools are slightly less harsh on axles due to the mini spool takin some of the torsional load from the axle windup, while a welded diff does not.
Layto....

Post by **Dozoor** » Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:58 pm

lay80n wrote:Up here decent 2nd hand centres arent fallin out the sky. Wreckers want like $350 or so, and private you lookin at like $200 and that not welded. Im happy with the centre i got now (Thanks Steve ) so can fit mini spool easily, and if dont like it remove it without having to source another centre like welding. Probably not have much hassle selling it too. Also mini spools are slightly less harsh on axles due to the mini spool takin some of the torsional load from the axle windup, while a welded diff does not.
Layto....

AHT AHT , No GIVE In a mini or full spool NIL ARNA NUT NON ,
someone has told you the pins may take some ,they won,t they are not flexy steel , they won,t bend, only snap or tear thru the pin holes in the hemi

Hay I LOVE de spools. Just Some fact's you should know .

Larry

Post by **lay80n** » Sun Aug 08, 2004 7:23 pm

ooops

my bad. I only goin on what i had been told from a fairly reliable source. All info is good thanks Larry. Mini-spool still lookin like the better option than welding.
Cheers
Layto....

Post by **muppet_man67** » Sun Aug 08, 2004 8:54 pm

lay80n wrote:Up here decent 2nd hand centres arent fallin out the sky. Wreckers want like $350 or so, and private you lookin at like $200 and that not welded. Im happy with the centre i got now (Thanks Steve ) so can fit mini spool easily, and if dont like it remove it without having to source another centre like welding. Probably not have much hassle selling it too. Also mini spools are slightly less harsh on axles due to the mini spool takin some of the torsional load from the axle windup, while a welded diff does not.
Layto....

Im talking about buying a center that has already been welded and no longer needed. Ie from someone who has since bought an air locker. Their must be a few around. People offer them to me and im not even looking.

Post by **xtreem** » Sun Aug 08, 2004 8:56 pm

$300 landed is way to close to the price of a lock right or ez locker though.

Post by **RB zook** » Sun Aug 08, 2004 9:01 pm

theese are the blokes i emailed havnt heard from them yet
i dont think there mini spools would be more than 150

www.difftechnics.com.au

Post by **xtreem** » Sun Aug 08, 2004 9:08 pm

Looks quiet positive Ryan, some of there mini spools are well priced. tell them there is quiet a large market for them so they are keen to make them.

Post by **lay80n** » Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:57 pm

Any news on the mini-spool Ryan.
Layto....

Post by **xtreem** » Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:23 pm

I drove Nelligen's zook today with the air locker engaged on the road, it was better than I thought it would be. I think I can handle a welded centre or spool until I can afford a second air locker.

Post by **stumped** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:48 pm

RB zook wrote:theese are the blokes i emailed havnt heard from them yet
i dont think there mini spools would be more than 150

www.difftechnics.com.au

emailed them, they don't make them for the zook :cry:

Post by **Gwagensteve** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:52 pm

brocky wrote:hi guys im new today but if you want somthing that is drivable, dont weld it gets very annoying after a while.....

with the rock gears i have only ever used the front maybe twice now

with the rear locker and gears, a good suspension lift, and running 30inch tyres i have driven alot of places that others in larger vehicle would not contiplate .

I mean this in the nicest possible way, but if you are driving terrain where you can't see the point in a front diff lock at all and your'e running 30's, perhaps it is understandable that you find a spool annoying.

It would be fair to say here in Vic that once you go to a rockhopper, you need a front locker all the more because you can no longer bounce over obstacles and have to drive them, and with that, most of the people discussing spools/welded diffs here are talking over 31" tyres.

Sure, under certain circumstances, a spool/welded diff might be considered "annoying" but IMHO not as annoying as having an open diff.

Sorry if this seems agressive, but I feel that whole welded diff thing only really applies when you are thinking that offroad performance is a higher priority than street manners, (as I believe that most of us do)

Ps with regard to the $300 landed mini spool - I'm not sure than it is wise to spent $300 in something that hangs inside the stock centre- ultimately, the case case will become the weak link and you will have trashed a centre anyway- you have to pull the whole thing apart anyway, so you can spend $30 on weld or $300 on a mini spool and have exactly the same outcome, 'cos if it breaks, it'll be an axle or the guts of the centre not the weld or the spool.

Post by **lay80n** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 7:30 pm

bumpski, any more on the diff technics place??? The welder is starting to call me to the shed.
Layto....

Post by **RB zook** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 7:34 pm

lay80n wrote:bumpski, any more on the diff technics place??? The welder is starting to call me to the shed.
Layto....

im gettin ideas of crankin the welder up :twisted:

Post by **xtreem** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 7:42 pm

Havnt heard anymore from him as yet.

Post by **lay80n** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 7:47 pm

I might as well weld it, as its STUMPED's centre in there, so if it gets farked its not my worry :finger:

Layto....

Post by **zookjedi** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 8:13 pm

brocky wrote:hi guys im new today but if you want somthing that is drivable, dont weld it gets very annoying after a while. im driving a sj51 ute with double airlockers, rockcrawlers and a 20v conversion, if i did it again, i would have not put in a front locker, with the rock gears i have only ever used the front maybe twice now, with the rear locker and gears, a good suspension lift, and running 30inch tyres i have driven alot of places that others in larger vehicle would not contiplate.but with that said, when i pull out of the bush the lockers go off and noone knows whats been done. the vehicle drives as it should everyday of the week. thankyou for allowing me to be a part of this. i like that we all have same intrests.

welcome Brocky
each to there own if you don't use your front locker you aint doing the terrain some of us do .
as for every day driving its been said before , its each to there own

Post by **brocky** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 8:33 pm

that maybe the case that you may have diffrent terrain or maybe i just dont have the balls to push mine to the limits but i still like to have a go and i think for legallity reasons dont you think the media has given us enoguh troubles with bullbar issuse and that our vehicles are juice gusslers. if we just to start weld stuff and fully lock our diffs. isnt that giving them more ammo, all im saying is that if you do it properly, there is less chance of being pulled over being put off the road. and having to spend more money putting the vehicle back to standard. i have also driven my vehicle in 2h with rear locker ingaged wher others could not drive in 4 with opens, somone said this earlier and i agree totally.all i was suggesting was that you seriously think of all options before you go a head with welding. but i do not take any opinions to offense, thats why there opinions. thank you for allowing me to have my say, it is much appreciated. alot of other forums just try to roast you every time you make a comment.

Post by **brocky** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 8:39 pm

that maybe the case that you may have diffrent terrain or maybe i just dont have the balls to push mine to the limits but i still like to have a go and i think for legallity reasons dont you think the media has given us enoguh troubles with bullbar issuse and that our vehicles are juice gusslers. if we just to start weld stuff and fully lock our diffs. isnt that giving them more ammo, all im saying is that if you do it properly, there is less chance of being pulled over being put off the road. and having to spend more money putting the vehicle back to standard. i have also driven my vehicle in 2h with rear locker ingaged wher others could not drive in 4 with opens, somone said this earlier and i agree totally.all i was suggesting was that you seriously think of all options before you go a head with welding. but i do not take any opinions to offense, thats why there opinions. thank you for allowing me to have my say, it is much appreciated. alot of other forums just try to roast you every time you make a comment.

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