Joining air locker line

Post by **ToNkA** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 9:22 am

Well I have melted my front airlocker line on the exhaust and dont want to have to re run a whole new line.

I am sure I can just join the lines, (standard blue line). ARB I am sure would have the stuff, but I dont have one nearby, is there a standard join fitting for them?

Post by **totto** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 9:30 am

I've seen fittings for nylon lines, a sort of push-in-and -lock fittings. Two of these and a threaded piece of tube in between would do the trick. While you're at it, by enough to have a spare too in case of another damage.
I've seen these fittings in shops that sell pneumatic equipment, and at a shop specializing in everything resembling hoses or tubes, ie. rubber hoses, nylon lines, hydraulic lines etc.
Hope you find a similar shop nearby.....

Post by **Surfin Alec** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 10:03 am

As totto said. there is a inline joiner that you just push the hose in each end. I did the same as you on my old truck. The air line is not the most common though as it is metric 5mm OD (I think) not 5/16 or 1/4" which I found to be common. Just got to take a sample piece with you when you go shopping.

Alec

Post by **ToNkA** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 10:23 am

Cheers.

Post by **spazbot** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 4:48 pm

yeah the arb stufff is 5mm which is not a common size, ive got buckets loads of all the festo blue connecters etc at work but they are all 4mm or 6mm cant get 5mm stuff, ill be converting to the 6mm stuff soon

Post by **landy_man** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 5:37 pm

while you are at it, may as well by some spares for the recovery kit

Post by **Bitsamissin** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 5:56 pm

Tonka, you can buy the 5mm airhose joiners from ARB for re-joining cut/split airlines rather than replacing the whole line.
5mm airline/fittings are very hard to find even Festo don't stock them.
And you know Baz has every damn Festo airline fitting known to man just in 6 or 8mm :roll:

Post by **landy_man** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 5:59 pm

why not just change the hose to a more common variety

Post by **Bitsamissin** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 6:08 pm

Yes I have done that changed to 3/16 diameter (much more common).
Also found an fitting which adapts the compression fitting to a BSP thread so you can run the Festo quick connect air fittings. Got heaps of spares as we use shitloads for work.

Post by **RUFF** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 7:50 pm

I run 5/16 fuel line to mine but i also have On Board Air and part of my Tube work is an air tank (Like most of it

)

Biggest prob with running lines this size is it takes a lot of air to charge them.

Post by **Cliffy** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 8:18 pm

Just change the fittings to suit 1/4 line, every hydraulic shop has the push on fittings/joiners and they are cheaper than the ARB line.

This one of my pet hates :bad-words:

....... why can't ARB use a common size, not some rare assed size :bad-words:

Post by **80UTE** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:43 am

Ive converted to 3/16 (4.76mm) i just used the correct olive for the tube and it worked a treat at the diff end and got 1/8bsp-3/16 push loc fittings at the soleniod valve also i use the same hose an my air free spool on my winch.

Wally

Post by **DIRTY ROCK STAR** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:59 pm

Duct tape.

Post by **83 lux** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:00 pm

i melted my and i got a push in fitting from qld diesal spares but any truck place should have them they just push in both ends cut the metled piece out and push in joiner $4- have not had a problem yet

scott

Post by **MYTTUF** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:58 pm

A kit from ARB has 2 joiners, olives and other fittings and has a few metres of tube and costs about $20.

Post by **Big Red Toy** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 6:21 pm

or you could go to festo and but the joiner off them, will cost you maybe $5 max or i'll sell you one, i have heaps of em. after all the tubeing is the same as the stuff they make

Post by **spazbot** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 6:16 pm

Big Red Toy wrote:or you could go to festo and but the joiner off them, will cost you maybe $5 max or i'll sell you one, i have heaps of em. after all the tubeing is the same as the stuff they make

festo dont make 5mm fittings only 4 and 6 , i found today that norgren stock 5mm fittings and hose.

Post by **Big Red Toy** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 6:22 pm

spazbot wrote:
Big Red Toy wrote:or you could go to festo and but the joiner off them, will cost you maybe $5 max or i'll sell you one, i have heaps of em. after all the tubeing is the same as the stuff they make

festo dont make 5mm fittings only 4 and 6 , i found today that norgren stock 5mm fittings and hose.

I don't know where youy buy your festo gear from but festo do make 5mm fittings and i use them all the time at work

Post by **fastest** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 8:59 pm

Tonka
They are known as John Guest fittings they are used on beer and gas lines in pubs and clubs...

If you are in Melbourne try Downies in Preston they should have them.

cheers
Fastest :lol:

Post by **spazbot** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:35 pm

Big Red Toy wrote:
spazbot wrote:
Big Red Toy wrote:or you could go to festo and but the joiner off them, will cost you maybe $5 max or i'll sell you one, i have heaps of em. after all the tubeing is the same as the stuff they make

festo dont make 5mm fittings only 4 and 6 , i found today that norgren stock 5mm fittings and hose.

I don't know where youy buy your festo gear from but festo do make 5mm fittings and i use them all the time at work

we buy from festo in silverwater syd, can you ive me the part nos then for some 5mm od air line and some push in connecters.....

Post by **Webbie** » Tue May 03, 2005 10:12 am

Is there any pros/con in going for the standard ARB 5mm air line to 6mm air line or bigger?or should I just run the 6mm from the air tank to the lockers in 6mm and go 8mm/10mm from the tank as my quik fitting point(air tools ,etc.)

Post by **-Scott-** » Tue May 03, 2005 10:44 am

I found 5mm in-line joiners at an irrigation supply shop - cost about $2 each, off the shelf. I carry 2 joiners and a length of tube in my spares kit.

If you change to a different size of air line you need to change ALL the fittings, or use an adaptor somewhere. We use enough Festo and SMC fittings at work that changing wouldn't be a huge problem, but I figure it's easier to stick with what's there.

Cheers,

Scott

Post by **-Nemesis-** » Tue May 03, 2005 1:02 pm

I did the exact same thing with my line on my exhaust.
I've had trouble finding 5mm connectors. I just went to Pirtek and they don't have them either. But the guy said, 3/16 is 4.8mm, so he got one off the shelf and tried it (a nice steel one) and the hose fits in nice and snug.
I haven't tested it under pressure, but I can't pull it out once it's in, without pressing in the tabs ofcourse. Anyways I bought a couple.

Post by **Wooders** » Tue May 03, 2005 1:07 pm

Got to Enzed and grab a heap of 'em for a few bucks each

Post by **J Top** » Tue May 03, 2005 9:53 pm

And while the airline is in 2 halves, sleeve it to protect it from the heat.
J Top

Post by **Tas_Dean** » Wed May 04, 2005 1:10 am

Cliffy wrote:This one of my pet hates ....... why can't ARB use a common size, not some rare assed size

So they can sell you "their" repair kits at a greatly inflated price????

Cheers, Dean

Post by **-Nemesis-** » Wed May 04, 2005 4:03 pm

I tested out the 3/16th joiners today, and they worked a treat. Whats 0.2mm anyways when it's Nylon........

Post by **Rainbow Warrior** » Wed May 04, 2005 8:43 pm

Big Red Toy wrote:
spazbot wrote:
Big Red Toy wrote:or you could go to festo and but the joiner off them, will cost you maybe $5 max or i'll sell you one, i have heaps of em. after all the tubeing is the same as the stuff they make

festo dont make 5mm fittings only 4 and 6 , i found today that norgren stock 5mm fittings and hose.

I don't know where youy buy your festo gear from but festo do make 5mm fittings and i use them all the time at work

I'm pretty sure SMC sell 5mm too, will check the catalogue tommorrow.

Post by **ToNkA** » Wed May 04, 2005 8:55 pm

J Top wrote:And while the airline is in 2 halves, sleeve it to protect it from the heat.
J Top

What does one recommend for sleeving it with to protect it from the exhaust?

Post by **DaveS3** » Wed May 04, 2005 9:20 pm

Use electrical conjute. The black ribbed stuff with a slit down the middle. Works well.

Dave.

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