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Post by zookjedi »

brocky welding the front won't do any harm on the road no one will know/ care as your hubs arn't engadged and when it comes to offroad using a locker usally has less effect on the inviroment due to less wheel spin .

but everyone is different , we all drive different terrain with different ideas of fun etc , but as for on the road remember a locked front be it welded or spooled makes no difference to it being open centred

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Post by xtreem »

Bad JuJu wrote:Gunna give this a shot, don't have to wreck a whole center just some side gears..

http://www.island4x4.com/4x4tech/axle/w ... index.html




Has anybody ever used this method??????????????? I have my diff out ready to weld tomorrow but dont know which method to go with. I like the simplicity of this one but the little bit of give in it is a little concerning, as it could make a weak point with the slack taking up all the time.

I have also read that some people grind the teeth back to get more weld in but that seems wrong to me, relying on a weld more than meshing gears?
Also read that some people take the spider gears out all together and weld lenghts of metal in between the side gears.

What method should I use???????????????????
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Post by zookjedi »

Extreme i'd leave the spider gears in and put metal between the spider gears and weld it all together , like one solid lump. it will not break if welded like that.

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Post by xtreem »

Thanks mate, I didnt get around to doing it today but hopefully tomorrow.
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Post by Barathrum »

xtreem wrote:
Bad JuJu wrote:Gunna give this a shot, don't have to wreck a whole center just some side gears..

http://www.island4x4.com/4x4tech/axle/w ... index.html




Has anybody ever used this method??????????????? I have my diff out ready to weld tomorrow but dont know which method to go with. I like the simplicity of this one but the little bit of give in it is a little concerning, as it could make a weak point with the slack taking up all the time.

I have also read that some people grind the teeth back to get more weld in but that seems wrong to me, relying on a weld more than meshing gears?
Also read that some people take the spider gears out all together and weld lenghts of metal in between the side gears.

What method should I use???????????????????

my rear is welded, it was done by a professional welder who is a mate of mine. he made it so that the is a very small amount of slip between the two wheels. it wirks really well. he challanged me to break it. so far its been in for about 9mths and it hasn't broken
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Post by Dozoor »

Just my thoughts on welding between the the gears to stop the spiders from moving - Although There is some movment retianed it will do
Bugger all for you in turns and bind up - The Only thing this method has over welding the side gears to the case is it will retian some movment for the spider to rock back and fourth trying to make there way into mesh on the next gear and coursing a lot of stress on a very small area -


= Not worth the Trouble This leaves the stress on the pins extra -


Some people seem to think welding is the weak spot , Somthing for a comparison , ever looked at your drive shafts these are made of tube with a thickness of less than 2 mm welded onto the flanges , ever seen one fail at this piont without an impact from a rock ect -,
The side gears in a standard two pin front carrier are around the same
diameter as the tube on your shafts Only you have around 10mm of material to weld with , if done right It shouldn,t be the area to fail -

Just some thoughts ,
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