springovers

[TJ Dave]

Hi all, I'm new here, I was wondering what has to be modified after doing a home made springover? ie steering, brakelines etc?

I've got a 1981 "sj 40" sierra (I think) with a Sigma engine 2.6P,fibreglass body, & 31x10.5x15r allterrains. I've just bought it, and from what I can tell, it's bog stock, but with the 31's there is NO travel. I'm on a budget (diy if possible) and want to do all the cheap simple things to improve it's capability before I start spending $$$.

thanks all.


Dave

[grimbo]

try and find some Old Man Emu 2.5" springs and make some 2" extended shackles out of 3mm U channel and the 31s will fit. Make sure you hammer the seams inside the inner fenders and everything should be good

[N*A*M]

you seem to know what might need work with a springover anyway. so just do it and see what needs modding as you go along. an anti-wrap bar is also a good idea for an SOA rear. go for it!

[camskizook]

Its prettty easy to do....
Need longer brake lines, driveshaft spacers, z shaped draglink and new spring perches..if u flip the ubolt plates u will need to make new shock mounts but

[M&M Custom Engineerin]

you seem to know what might need work with a springover anyway. so just do it and see what needs modding as you go along. an anti-wrap bar is also a good idea for an SOA rear. go for it!

you wont need a trac bar if you keep the load leaf in.

[beebee]

Its prettty easy to do....
Need longer brake lines, driveshaft spacers, z shaped draglink and new spring perches..if u flip the ubolt plates u will need to make new shock mounts but

[beebee]

Its prettty easy to do....
Need longer brake lines, driveshaft spacers, z shaped draglink and new spring perches..if u flip the ubolt plates u will need to make new shock mounts but

Scary steering!

[TJ Dave]

someone I know said something about a calmini lift ??? anyone heard of this?

anyway, to clear things up, what I should have said earlier, the 31's are already on, the body is 1 piece fibreglass (someones tried to make a Jeep, not me), the rear has extended shackles already.

what are z shaped draglink, & anti-wrap bar? I'm not knowledgable about some of these leaf spring mods, having been a TJ Jeep (coils) fanatic for some time.


anyway, thanks for the help, keep it coming,

Dave

[camskizook]

Its prettty easy to do....
Need longer brake lines, driveshaft spacers, z shaped draglink and new spring perches..if u flip the ubolt plates u will need to make new shock mounts but

Scary steering!

I have had the z-bar for 12months now with my spring over and it handles just as well as it did when it was stock....

The zbar is basically your drag link bent into a "z" so it doesnt rub on your passenger side springs at full left lock

[Wendle]

Its prettty easy to do....
Need longer brake lines, driveshaft spacers, z shaped draglink and new spring perches..if u flip the ubolt plates u will need to make new shock mounts but

Scary steering!

I'f feel safer in a suzuki with a well-built z-link than in a hilux with a permanently fatigued j-arm anyday of the week

[N*A*M]

a z-link also reduces the operating angles of your rod ends.

cam, it's hard to see but their doesn't look like there's much bracing on yours?

[grimbo]

someone I know said something about a calmini lift ??? anyone heard of this?

An american lift that will set you back a fair bit of money. It is a 5" lift good quality but big bucks

anyway, to clear things up, what I should have said earlier, the 31's are already on, the body is 1 piece fibreglass (someones tried to make a Jeep, not me), the rear has extended shackles already.

we need to see pics of the 1 piece fibreglass "jeep" like body

[N*A*M]

calmini gear is available thru a mob in perth now. but yeah it's $x$...

show us your body!

[greg]

if it's a flattie i think i might just need to have your address too - and let me know what times you won't be home in the next few days

[camskizook]

a z-link also reduces the operating angles of your rod ends.

cam, it's hard to see but their doesn't look like there's much bracing on yours?

NAM that is a pretty bad pic, but it has been braced with box tube and reinforced......i didnt do it myself, paul pisani from GRP did it

[N*A*M]

well i thought it would've been built properly... and if paul made it then i have no doubts it's a stout job.

[camo]

calmini kit is 100% bolt-on so would be good to take from car to car every time u roll it or can take it back to stock (the car that is) if u want to sell it

i wrote to calmini a few weeks back and the kit is not ready yet still fine tuning it it costs $999.95 US so it is preaty out there when most guys are buying zooks for half that

[grimbo]

the calmini kit has been advertised for sale for about 5 years now so I'd imagine it would be for sale

I have actually seen Zuks with it on so I don't know what kit you are thinking of

[bazooked]

the kit is available from 4wd usa here in perth and its a 5" shackle reversal and i think goes for bout $1600 saw 1 fitted here didnt see it flex so i cant tell ya wat its like....

[TJ Dave]

here you go, it's the only pic I have so far.

tell the truth, I'm still confused. I'll keep looking at pics and reading the posts, I'll get it eventually.

edit: is there anyone in perth who I'd be able to talk to, and get them to explain in person? I know bazooked is here somewhere, any one else?

[camo]

i am talking about a bolt-on spring over kit. not the shakle reverse kit!
wrote to calmini about three weeks a go and the spoa kit is not yet ready
claimed 6.5 in lift on there spoa kit
5in for the reverse shakle kit and 2in or 3 in lift with there other kits

[bazooked]

hey dave if ya wanna get in touch let me no...bye the way before u can do any mods u have to fill out the form from the cop shop before u start doin anything :evil:

[beebee]

Its prettty easy to do....
Need longer brake lines, driveshaft spacers, z shaped draglink and new spring perches..if u flip the ubolt plates u will need to make new shock mounts but

Scary steering!

I'f feel safer in a suzuki with a well-built z-link than in a hilux with a permanently fatigued j-arm anyday of the week

No fatigued j-arm for me! Just welded steering arms and bootie box mounts. Does that mean that I'm ok. Safer than stock?

[SAWZALL]

i am talking about a bolt-on spring over kit. not the shakle reverse kit!
wrote to calmini about three weeks a go and the spoa kit is not yet ready
claimed 6.5 in lift on there spoa kit
5in for the reverse shakle kit and 2in or 3 in lift with there other kits

Keep in mind that Calmini have been bagging SPOA as unsafe for about 6 years. They couldnt sell enough of their SPUA kits so now they have changed their minds

[antt]

hey dave if ya wanna get in touch let me no...bye the way before u can do any mods u have to fill out the form from the cop shop before u start doin anything :evil:

why do you have to fill in a form at the cop shop to start modding?

[Dozoor]

Looks like they tried to copy a CJ3b , there my favorite sheep and white too mmmm.
Because it has a different body might be worth looking at it from a differrent perspective, has it got good clearance for the tires at its present hieght ? are the diffs narrow or wide track ?

[camo]

nice point was just a good bolt on idea probly to expence for any one here any way $1000 us = $3000 aus with importing

[TJ Dave]

Hi all, sorry I haven't been here lately, work sux (very tired).

ATM I've decided to leave the suspension as is.

I've got a small problem with the transfer case, it's making a regular noise, like a banging or thumping. what could this be? so far I've heard either collapsed bearing, or the chain's stretched and is hollowing out the case. any other ideas? opinions? advice? I think it's in the output shaft somewhere, as when I was towed home, it was doing it even though I had Tcase in N, Gbox in N, and foot on clutch.

It's a regular noise, thump every revolution of driveshaft, starting 30kmh getting worse as speed increases.

thanks in advance

[purefmx]

Its prettty easy to do....
Need longer brake lines, driveshaft spacers, z shaped draglink and new spring perches..if u flip the ubolt plates u will need to make new shock mounts but

Scary steering!

I have had the z-bar for 12months now with my spring over and it handles just as well as it did when it was stock....

The zbar is basically your drag link bent into a "z" so it doesnt rub on your passenger side springs at full left lock

Hey Cam,
my first spoa z link was scary, after 12 monthjs of log hopping etc, she bent just a bit, it took about ten turns to full lock to the left and one to the right, from now on ill make sure the bugger is braced good and proper!!!

[Guy]

Seeing as sierra's have a gear driven transfer case ( no chains unless factory a coil sprung sierra or jimny transfer case have been installed ) .. I would seriously doubt a stretched chain. Collapsed bearing not likely .. or it would make alot more noise than just a mild thunk thunk sound.
Have you checked your universal joints ?? Other possibilities are chipped gears t/case or diff. Possibly rear wheel bearings.

Best bet is uni joint though ..