How to go RE tyres

[Gonzo]

Ok so with 2.5/3 inches of lift in the suspension and 1 inch body lift should i go

• 235/85R16 (about 32 but narrow)
• 32x11.5R15
• 32x10.5R16
• 33x10.5R15 (will take some bashing with a BFH)
• or should i just stick with littleish 31's

???

I`m not worried about getting out the angle grider here...

Either way i`ll be buying some new rims with the biggest offset that i can find, rockhopper too...

[Beastmavster]

Ask Antt... he knows from experience on his efi LWB.

You want to try and keep the rotational weight down so you want relatively narrow.

7.5R16's are also an option - 32" tall and much lighter than the 32" mongrels that he's running.

[fightara]

33s!

Humvit did it

[fightara]

Location: Hiding under a rock in Crows Nest

[antt]

Ok so with 2.5/3 inches of lift in the suspension and 1 inch body lift should i go

• 235/85R16 (about 32 but narrow)
• 32x11.5R15
• 32x10.5R16
• 33x10.5R15 (will take some bashing with a BFH)
• or should i just stick with littleish 31's

???

I`m not worried about getting out the angle grider here...

Either way i`ll be buying some new rims with the biggest offset that i can find, rockhopper too...

mine has 2in body 2in suspension, so probably pretty similar height to yours. and i am running 32x10.5 on f100 offset on the front and a little bigger offset on the rear.

i had to chop the shiat out of the front to get em on and belt the living crap out of the firewall and they still hit pretty often.


out of that list i'd recommend the 235/85R16 for a tire your gonna run on the street all the time. cause its still big, but narrow so it wont hit as much, plus theres less weight to it so ya wont be breaking shiat like me.

[bigsteve]

31's never measure 31, I voted 32X11.5, I ran these in mtrs for a while and was happy, but nothing beats the howl and shake of a swamper

[Gonzo]

but nothing beats the howl and shake of a swamper

not even?

[bigsteve]

but nothing beats the howl and shake of a swamper

not even?

Well thats just wrong

[cj]

What sort of tyres are you talking about? I was looking to go 235/85R16 on the Vit as I think they are a nice balance of height and width without adding to much loading to the front end but the cost of 16" rims definately adds to the expense. 33x10.5 means BFG or Simex JT. You could always go Old School with the 7.50x16 and get some Simex MP Trekker's for $200. I think Antt is running 8" rims with a bit off negative offset so maybe 7" rims and less offset might fit a little better but you might want to look at a 2" bodylift cause suspension lift ain't the same for tyre clearance when you take compression into account. The Humvit had no bodylift I think but some severe body modification with a variety of tools. Don't forget the wider the tyre and the bigger the offset the more extreme you're going to have to get to make them fit. What are you going to do about high range gearing cause the manual struggles more than the auto with larger rubber.

[SiKiD_01]

i have 31"x10.50"R15 on at the moment. heavy as all chit, and affected the response big time. i can fit 32"s and have minimal rubbing on compression at the front. like you said, u need to use a BFH!

i haven't had much to do with the taller and narrower tyres, my only experience is when my dad had a hilux about 10 years ago, and had some super grippers with 16" steel split rims.

would be interesting, to me, to see how they go and look on a vitara.

i watched a whole heap of the malaysian rainforest challenges, and they use pretty much a tall and narrow tyre on a 16 inch rim. i think anyway, one thing that got me was that, even though some had very low tyre pressure, hardly any of them ran beadlocks. is this the case for the skinny tyres? no beadlocks?

i dont really know what/where you drive, but i'm assuming that its a bit of everything. should it matter what choice you make, what do you have in mind craig?

in conclusion, i dont have much to tell you, in that most of you already know what i said, but if i could, i wouldn't mind trying to fit some 33x10.5R15 on a vit, and you did say you dont mind getting the grinder out.

the dude at http://www.k9rdj.co.uk/ runs 35x10.5 simex ETs.

really, i have NFI!

[Beastmavster]

The dude on that site is running a sierra tcase and 5.83 R&P's too...

[sierrajim]

possum hunter is running 33's on his. It is a tray back mind you so the rear clears easily, the fronts after a little cutting clear reasonably but he is busting stuff all the time.

I would not recomend anything bigger than 32" on a Vit due to the CV and high range gearing issues.

I would suggest that the MTR would also be the most agressive tyre you should look at. reason being is that if you have a more agressive tyre you're going to spend your SAS money replacing CV joints every monday.

[Beastmavster]

Sounds like antt's doing much better after accepting the limitation that IFS has in travel. His strut spacres appear to have been the CV killer

[possum hunter]

I run 33/13.5 bout 2.5' sus 2' BL. For mine if i was keeping the ifs i would be looking at the 32/9.5or10.5 simex ..
but all depends on how you drive it if i want to i can go for ages without breaking a cv/spline but most of the time you want to go hard if you do you 'will' break stuff...I have gone through bout 16 to date and have four left in my kit before the sas starts....
For a while i ran 31/10.5 mtrs and they where great but bigger is better
right?????????
33's =lower sus & 2" BL or stockpile cv's
true 32's/31's =drive with caution and all may be fine
Just my 2c worth i'm sure not all will agree but that has been my experience.......

[Gonzo]

Thanks for all the input

I`m thinking 32 MTR`s on 15 inch rims...

low range will be taken care of with rockhopper, i'll deal with high range...

i was thinking about an extreme tyre, but most of the tracks that i`m doing are more suited to the MTR`s - simex would just be overkill

that and things are more likley to go pop with more grip

[fightara]

MT/R is a helluvalot cheaper too. Every rig I've seen running these on rocks goes really well. Depending on the tyre of course, the more "extreme" tyres (ie. most simex) seem to be setup more for mud than rock, which is prob what you'll be driving

Have you broken much on your Vit previously?

[Gonzo]

Have you broken much on your Vit previously?

erm, just about everything

if i can find some available 16 inch rims, i`ll go with them but that looks doubtful...

[fightara]

Have you broken much on your Vit previously?

erm, just about everything

if i can find some available 16 inch rims, i`ll go with them but that looks doubtful...

Standard GV rims are 16" - but they're probably not wide enough.

[Gonzo]

wrong offset too :(

[antt]

get used to gear changing gonzo. 32's kill mine on the road

[SiKiD_01]

you all got efi, try carby!!!

[Gonzo]

power and speed arent really an issue - i didnt buy a zook to hoon in...

i have a subaru for that

[Gwagensteve]

I reckon that standard GV 16" rims will be sweet if you can find them. they are 16X7 and the offset is ok - GV's with 16's have flares to cover them.

We have a car in the club here running 32 9.5 16 'pedes (same diameter as a 34" swamper) on stock V6 vitara rims.

[Gonzo]

... still want the bigger offset for the 11.5 wide mtrs i think

might make it a bit less tippy too i hope

[Luigi Malone]

Ask Antt... he knows from experience on his efi LWB.

You want to try and keep the rotational weight down so you want relatively narrow.

7.5R16's are also an option - 32" tall and much lighter than the 32" mongrels that he's running.

I agree though no one else will most like.
Get the 235 x 85 x 16's to hell with the cost of rims.
The BFG MT measures in at 32" all you'll ever need.
I have a new set of BFG MT 31 x 10.5 x 15's and will be changing to the 235x85x16's when I've had my $ worth.
Light zookis don't need a wide tyre. But bigger diameter is a help.
LM

[Beastmavster]

... still want the bigger offset for the 11.5 wide mtrs i think

might make it a bit less tippy too i hope

Use the rims offset for the extra width and stability, not the tyres......

You only need to buy the rims once remember..... you'll get over it.

If you have to get some made up custom......