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F*#ckin Supercheap Ezyouts :mad:

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F*#ckin Supercheap Ezyouts :mad:

Post by TuffRR »

I had a broken bolt in the valley cover end cap on my block. No probs i thought, just use an ezyout to get it out.

Well now I have a broken ezyout inside a broken bolt. :bad-words:

What makes this a problem is that the ezyout must be high tensile which is making trying to drill it out near useless. Because its in the block, i also have to be careful not to be too messy with the drilling. :bad-words:

Anyone got an idea what i can do???? (other than go back to Supercheap to get my 13 bucks back!)
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Re: F*#ckin Supercheap Ezyouts :mad:

Post by hottiemonster »

TuffRR wrote:(other than go back to Supercheap to get my 13 bucks back!)


You mean SUPERSHIT :rofl:
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Post by -Mick- »

That's a tricky one :? How far will the drill bit actually go :?:

Would another easy out get it ( a decent one )
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Post by Big Red Toy »

lots of lube and a drill in a stand or mill is the only way, also heat might help. Might have to take the car to somebody to get it done if your no comfortable doing it yourself
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Post by TuffRR »

hmmm, doesn't sound good. Are there drill bits available which are more suited to harder steel?
I'd rather not have to take it anywhere, coz that would involve getting a trailer, paying for labour etc etc and i'm trying to do this the CB way!
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Post by Hoonz »

haha thats what u get for buying super shit

find a specialised hardware store and get some tungstun(spelling) drill bits
go slow and use a cutting compound (teraflex)
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Post by chimpboy »

Hoonz wrote:haha thats what u get for buying super shit

find a specialised hardware store and get some tungstun(spelling) drill bits
go slow and use a cutting compound (teraflex)


Yes. Try to start with a smallish drill bit and keep it as centred as possible.

But first...

Depending on whether any of the ezyout thing is sticking out of the bolt, you may be able to use a centre punch and hammer to unscrew it - remember this will be turning it clockwise!

If it moves at all, it should get easier and easier.

And if you can get a small hole in it at all, you might be able to use a tap to unscrew it - screw the tap in and once it's run out of room to move, it will start unscrewing the ezy out...

Lotsa things to try before you give up!

Good luck. It's sucky.

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Post by RUFF »

Do you have a welder? If so carefully weld a bolt to the broken Easy Out. Then while its still hot you should be able to turn it clockwise and undo it.
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Post by RV80 »

there are guys around that do mobile thread
repairs. for around $30 to $40 a bolt. let your
fingers do the walking.
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Post by TuffRR »

Went to Bunnings and got a titanium drill bit (didn't have tungsten). It has not even made a dent into it. :cry:

No part of the bolt/ezyout is external to the block so unfortantely welding a nut on to it wont work.

RV - any idea what these mobile thread guys would be under. Strangely, there is not a category in the yellow pages titled "i f*cked up, help me (or thread repair etc).
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Post by revin »

Look under heli coil and thread repairers
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Post by TuffRR »

Nuthin relevant in the yellow pages or google under those terms. Perhaps I should just scrap the 4.4 and put in a 4.6!
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f*#ckin supercheap

Post by LowRanger »

you might look in the yellow pages under fasteners/industrial,I just checked in the Sydney yellow pages and found a few thread repair guys
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Post by big red »

have you tried to use a small pointed grinding stone [or a couple of dozen of them] to grind it out.
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Post by RV80 »

what's your location :?:
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Post by TuffRR »

[quote="RV":I'm gayer than aids!]what's your location :?:[/quote:I'm gayer than aids!]

Up shit creek. :x



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Post by chimpboy »

My advice in this situation is to forget about it for a couple of days then come back to it.

You'll be able to fix it or get it fixed. Just get some time away from it because you're getting hyper-frustrated. Happens to all of us with shit like that.

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Post by RV80 »

Up shit creek. :x

:rofl: try ringing a couple of car dealerships
tomorrow and ask them. there has to be
someone doing that shit down there. if not there's
a job for someone. :lol:
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Post by TuffRR »

I'm going to take Chimpboy's advice and forget about it for tonight. To ease the pain, I'll drink a beer for every drill bit that i broke.

Its gonna be a big night!!!! :?
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Post by ludacris »

Go to supercheap and show them what there product has done then query them on what they are going to do to fix it.
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Post by bru21 »

a cheap alternative to the tungsten drill bits are the masonary drill bits with tungsten tips. just grind the tip so it is like a regular bit. as the tip is brazed in you need to be careful no to get it too hot or the tip will drop out so be careful to keep it cold when grinding and drilling.

the titanium bits are not anything special just ordanary bits titaniun nitride coated which means nothing when the tip chips off slowely.

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f*#cking supercheap

Post by LowRanger »

I just had a look online in the Melbourne yellow pages and found these 2 places that may be able to help you out
Thread Doctor The

4 Floral Gardns Narre Warren South VIC 3805
ph: 0419 507 633
Recoil

20 Stamford Rd Oakleigh VIC 3166
ph: (03) 9567 3377


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Post by TuffRR »

Thanks guys. :)
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Post by J Top »

It does not need to be proud to weld a nut to it but if it is below flush I would have more success with a mig then a stick.
I still feel this is your best advice.
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Post by Kev80 »

I have also found S/cheap to have crap tools, how many Allan keys & 12mm sockets have i now broken.

The most suprising one was the 10mm open ender spanner that broke while undoing a brake line on my Cruiser.........do you belive that ??? :roll:
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Post by LowRanger »

Unfortunately,with tools you usually get what you pay for.I suggest that if you are going to buy easy outs or taps and dies etc that you consider spending a little more initially and buy something like Starrett or Snap On.And no I have no affiliation with either.But I have been in the trade for over 30 years and still have ste same tools I started with.

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Post by Utemad »

Kev80 wrote:I have also found S/cheap to have crap tools, how many Allan keys & 12mm sockets have i now broken.

The most suprising one was the 10mm open ender spanner that broke while undoing a brake line on my Cruiser.........do you belive that ??? :roll:


I bought an 18mm combination spanner from SuperCheap the other day for $1.

I have bought Sidchrome spanners the same size for around $20 mark bit less maybe.

Something tells me there is a quality difference between the two :?
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Post by Rainbow Warrior »

Ezi Outs, taps & dies are prescision critically manufactured tools, and basically be worth zero if not manufactured otherwise, $10 saved now could cost $200 to fix :cry:
A cheap spanner may be good for the kids bikes, emergency toolkit or fixing the mower, and at worst mincing your knuckles.
I could have spent $50 each on tail lights, but replacing smashed $15 Supercheap ones is more economical.
I still use a Supercheap lump hammer at work & camping, no problems.
I wouldn't bother with their electric tools though.
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Post by chimpboy »

Rainbow Warrior wrote:Ezi Outs, taps & dies are prescision critically manufactured tools, and basically be worth zero if not manufactured otherwise, $10 saved now could cost $200 to fix :cry:
A cheap spanner may be good for the kids bikes, emergency toolkit or fixing the mower, and at worst mincing your knuckles.
I could have spent $50 each on tail lights, but replacing smashed $15 Supercheap ones is more economical.
I still use a Supercheap lump hammer at work & camping, no problems.
I wouldn't bother with their electric tools though.


Yeah, the trick is to know what to skimp on.
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Re: f*#cking supercheap

Post by Kev80 »

LowRanger wrote: I have been in the trade for over 30 years and still have ste same tools I started with.


What about all the tools the apprentices lost ? (left in engine bays etc) :rofl:
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