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Axle wrap dilemna

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Axle wrap dilemna

Post by My Lil Lux »

Lookin to put my IFS springs in the rear this week, and was goin to take a leaf out, worried about axle wrap running the 35's and was wondering instead of a wrap bar, would upper control arms do the same job as I want to do a coil conversion when I get the money, and this would seem more logical than buying a wrap bar then scrapping it to put the control arms in later. :?:
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Post by basketcase »

I was going to put some mazda springs last weekend and was told to use a control arm off the front of a coil sprung 4wd. Easy and solution to a wrap bar.
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Post by STUMPY »

Yeah i have a axlewrap bar but a mate of mine will doing a springover on his 60 and he'll be using a control arm of a bundera
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Post by bubs »

basketcase wrote:I was going to put some mazda springs last weekend and was told to use a control arm off the front of a coil sprung 4wd. Easy and solution to a wrap bar.


Mine lasted about 9 months without a wrap bar

i would recommened it
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Post by Old Yella »

bubs wrote:
basketcase wrote:I was going to put some mazda springs last weekend and was told to use a control arm off the front of a coil sprung 4wd. Easy and solution to a wrap bar.


Mine lasted about 9 months without a wrap bar

i would recommened it


I farked a set on one track on the first day out, so left it in after that.
you do get a little bit better up travel swapping the 2 lower springs around but a litte more wrap, OK with no blocks.
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Post by My Lil Lux »

I know a wrap bar is the go, but what I'm asking would setting up two control arms do the same job as a wrap bar, or would it be inferior
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Post by redzook »

My Lil Lux wrote:I know a wrap bar is the go, but what I'm asking would setting up two control arms do the same job as a wrap bar, or would it be inferior


i would say it would bind your suspension
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Post by dumbdunce »

redzook wrote:
My Lil Lux wrote:I know a wrap bar is the go, but what I'm asking would setting up two control arms do the same job as a wrap bar, or would it be inferior


i would say it would bind your suspension


it would probably be the worst of both worlds - it will bind a little bit, and won't significantlt reduce wrap. worst case would be it could actually increase wrap due to the bind, depending on the length and angle of your upper arms.

if you're going to do a 4/5 link conversion, do it. if you're going to stick with leafs (and there's nothing wrong with leaf suspension, it can be made to work very well), then an anti wrap bar of some description is really your only option to control wrap.
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Post by LUXon37s »

Would a bundera control arm mounted on the top of the diff be an effective solution to axle wrap ?

I know where there is one and i've got the tools but would it work
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Post by 4sum4 »

A ladder bar with a shackle is the only way to go if you still want lots of travel and no wrap,A single link relys on leafs to complete the trianglelation and a 4 link works the same way as a ladder bar.
and if your doing a coil conversion later just sell the track bar
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Post by BOGAN V8 »

superior engineering do one put in my car and no more wrap and still lots of travel he made the whole lot for 280.00 solved all my probs
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Post by My Lil Lux »

Was going to get one of superior, between me and my mates, we've had a few snake racing bits break, my adjustable torque rod bent , and his adjustable lower control arm bent, and I like the one they make, was just seeing whether other idea would work, thanks for advice guys.
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Post by dumbdunce »

noifs wrote:Would a bundera control arm mounted on the top of the diff be an effective solution to axle wrap ?

I know where there is one and i've got the tools but would it work


not on its own - you need to add a shackle and swivel to the chassis mounted end to allow sufficient degrees of freedom for the suspension to articulate. the arm on its own, mounted to the chassis, will bind.

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Post by Guy »

dumbdunce wrote:
noifs wrote:Would a bundera control arm mounted on the top of the diff be an effective solution to axle wrap ?

I know where there is one and i've got the tools but would it work


not on its own - you need to add a shackle and swivel to the chassis mounted end to allow sufficient degrees of freedom for the suspension to articulate. the arm on its own, mounted to the chassis, will bind.

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Post by BOGAN V8 »

superiors has that on the chassis end of it no probs with my one all good
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Post by dumbdunce »

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