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60's

Tech Talk for Cruiser owners.

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60's

Post by Sixty »

While we're in the mood for findin' out what on here, how many 60 series owners/drivers are there in here??

Al

Interested in any ideas/hints for mine & my new rusty project under the house.
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Post by N*A*M »

danstoyowagon drives the poo mobile 60 which goes all right!

i'm looking at getting a hj60 for a tow rig. i was gonna use it as a base for my project but it's just too porky.
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Post by bj on roids »

I basically drive a HJ60 early model, with a 40 series chassis, and 40 series frame :D
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Post by dansTOYOwagon »

YEP!!! ME!! Over here!!! :D

Its brown. Its locked rear. It is body lifted 3". Its on 35z (MTR's no less!!). Flatter than stock springs. ummmm..... what else?? No huge mods. Just bits taken off, and a few gizmos put on. Nothing flash. Its a big fun machine. It doesn't always want to stay upright, but thats got a lot to do with the guy behind the wheel I think!!

PM if you want some details. I have heaps of pics also, here and there, and everywhere..... I can't think of where there are any right now tho :wink: sorry. tired. hungry. tired.....

cheers. Dan
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Post by Sixty »

Dan, I've PM ed you.

Yeah BJ, I've seen the 40 rock galloper you'nve got. Not bad at all.

C'mawn, theres gotta be more 60's on here.....

Al
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Post by Shorty40 »

I just put 60 rear springs on the back of my 40 series. Does that count :?:

Enough flex to put the rear on a 44 drum :wink:
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Post by Sixty »

haha :)

I doubt if my old girl could lift herself that high without falling over :!:




It'd be nice though....
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Post by Sixty »

With any luck the 60 under the house will be able to once I've finished. Removing all the excess crap rear seats, rear windows, rear roof section.....
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Post by dansTOYOwagon »

mate, I didn't receive any PM's. try again ?!?!?

hey Dan.... PICS :D Sounds awesome!!!
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Post by tojo86 »

have a 60 hj wagon 4lt pushrod,b/bar roofrack,twin batts,elec trailer brakes,driving lights,side steps,brush bars,sunraisers,snorkel,160lt+45lt tanks,wired for accs,flouro int lights,cd+uhf. only had the old girl for 4 months
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Post by Sixty »

Great, sounds like a touring rig. :D

Any pics? What size tyres/rims?
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Post by bj on roids »

Stepho wrote:Dan, I've PM ed you.

Yeah BJ, I've seen the 40 rock galloper you'nve got. Not bad at all.

C'mawn, theres gotta be more 60's on here.....

Al



"rock galloper" i love it!! i might start calling it that :D :)
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ROB

Post by RackiE »

hay rob sup mate? :)
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Post by bj on roids »

duuude, nuthin man, hows the jeep plans? :D :finger: :evil: :twisted:
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Post by womble »

yeh man

old "84" 60 series (the Tank) heavy duty rear springs 2 inch body lift 2 inch spring lift long range fuel tanks rear diff locked other than that she has a couple of electrical thingy bobs and do dads and a whatacallthatshit :lol:
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Post by tojo86 »

Stepho. am running 31x10.5x15 pretty standard, shod with desert duellers. :painting:
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Post by Sixty »

tojo86 wrote:Stepho. am running 31x10.5x15 pretty standard, shod with desert duellers. :painting:

Thanks. I'm just trying to find any info on running larger tyres than what I've already got, 265/75x16 (32x16). Even my old 7.50x16's used to rub the inner guards out in the scrub, now that I've gone up a size or two its even worse. I would like to know how ppl run 33's or even 35's without wrecking the tyres on the inner guards. Larger offset on the rims or is it spacers???? Remembering I want to keep this legal.(visibly anyhow!)

Al
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Post by tojo86 »

stepho, dont know much about wheel/tyre combos whats on the old girl was there when i got her. though i,ve never had them scrub the guards and theres still plenty of clearance . Body or suspension lift would probably be the go
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Post by Sixty »

tojo86 wrote:stepho, dont know much about wheel/tyre combos whats on the old girl was there when i got her. though i,ve never had them scrub the guards and theres still plenty of clearance . Body or suspension lift would probably be the go


Thats just it mate, I've got a susp lift of about 1 to 1&1/2" and small body lift of 1&1/2" already. The tyres still rub. On the inner sidewall of the tyre onto the inner guard when the tyre goes up into the guard.
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Post by tojo86 »

what sort of rims are you using ? might need wheel spacers to get them out a bit how much room have you got from face of tyre to guard?
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Post by Sixty »

The rims are ROH 16x8's. From memory there is probably about 1/2" from the outside edge of the tyre to the outer guard, while I've got a smidge more than that on the inside.
Thought about spacers, but the legalities bugger me up with insurance. :( Mite see how much (& if I can get them up here) a set of bigger offset rims will cost.
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Post by 60seriesguy »

1991 FJ62, Third World 1-ton spec originally with a Dana 60 rear axle and longer rear springs (since replaced with an FJ60 axle and a SOA conversion), carb'd petrol engine, the usual.

Here's a shot of the old girl:
"You can ask me anything about this Land Cruiser except how much money I have in it, and what kind of mileage it gets"
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Post by bj on roids »

welcome henry :D
ive never understood the dana 60 joke?!?!?!
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Post by 60seriesguy »

Thanks, BJ, interesting place you Aussies got here! :)

It's no joke, all Venezuelan-spec FJ60/62's came with an oddball Dana 60, a semi-floater with the differential offset to the driver's (RHD) side. It was a strong axle but a very rare one, so when I started doing more rockcrawling I started to get paranoid about spare parts, and decided to swap it out for a Toyota axle.

Here's another shot of my Land Cruiser, bought it in Caracas, Venezuela in 1992 when it was barely a year old, brought it to the US in 1996. Five countries, 39 US states and a lot of miles, the old girl is tired but still strong.
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Post by N*A*M »

welcome henry

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Post by bj on roids »

60seriesguy wrote:Thanks, BJ, interesting place you Aussies got here! :)

It's no joke, all Venezuelan-spec FJ60/62's came with an oddball Dana 60, a semi-floater with the differential offset to the driver's (RHD) side. It was a strong axle but a very rare one, so when I started doing more rockcrawling I started to get paranoid about spare parts, and decided to swap it out for a Toyota axle.

Here's another shot of my Land Cruiser, bought it in Caracas, Venezuela in 1992 when it was barely a year old, brought it to the US in 1996. Five countries, 39 US states and a lot of miles, the old girl is tired but still strong.


I always thought this to be some sort of strange joke!! Why would toyota sacrifice thier awesome axle for something else?
What were the specs on the "factory" dana 60? 30 spline? or bigger? brakes? driveshaft? what springs were on it?

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Post by 60seriesguy »

It had very little to do with Toyota itself and a lot to do with the "local content" laws that the protectionist Venezuelan government imposed on Toyota. Basically, to let Toyota sell Land Cruisers in Venezuela, each Land Cruiser had to include a certain percentage of parts made in Venezuela. To name a few, the radiator, hoses, fan, fan belts, brakes, driveshafts, the complete rear axle and a large portion of the interior were all sourced locally.

The Dana 60 axle was made by Danaven (Dana of Venezuela) and had 35-spline inner axles, the differential offset to the right, and all Toyota brakes, albeit the 1-ton version sold throughout the Third World (bigger, wider brakes than those available in America and Oz). The rear springs very were interesting, the springpacks were HUGE, similar to those on 75 cab-chassis intended for mine use, and the distance between the spring eyes was 5.5" longer than the standard springpacks available in USA and OZ.

All in all, a pretty bizarro axle, and one that I ever broke would have sidelined my Land Cruiser (incidentally my daily driver) for weeks while I waited for parts to arrive from Venezuela or were made custom ($$$). It was cheaper, easier and more reliable to swap it for a Toyota axle. Besides, the Dana 60 was a nightmare on the rocks, every time it scraped (much less clearance than the front axle) the rocks would peel back the bottom lip of the differential cover and it would leak 90 wt...
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Post by bj on roids »

35 spline? Surely you are telling lies?

:shock: you wont break it, so why swap it out 8) !!!
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Post by bj on roids »

Oh yeah, have you got any pics on it?

Where can i get one? Australia is almost a third world country, and i need some 35 spline action!
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Post by Sixty »

What weird & wonderful mod have you got in mind for the 'rock galloper' now bj?
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