Buying new GU 3L..negotiating with Nissan on aftermarket....

Post by **mabsydney** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:34 pm

I'm trying to decide whether I can afford to buy a new Patrol next year instead of second hand.

Has anyone managed to negotiate with Nissan to get decent tyres, aftermarket suspension fitted on a new vehicle instead of the stock gear? I mean they would be saving on the tyres I don't want and the stock suspension can be fitted to another vehicle.......do you reckon I would be able to get a reduction on the cost of the after market gear using that argument???

thanx,

Martin

Post by **BigMav** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:29 pm

I doubt it but no harm in asking right.

Post by **ludacris** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 9:55 am

I have heard of it being done champ. Dont just try one nissan yard though.

Post by AJ » Sat Nov 27, 2004 10:25 am

Dealers will fit anything legal if you pay them. If there are warranty implications then you may have to sign something.

Most people drive straight from the dealer to the local tyre store or accessory shop and get everything done there. Why pay the dealer a margin on top of retail prices? Having said that, the way I did it was to shop around until I had the best price on a standard vehicle and then negotiated with that dealer for the extras.

Always know the best prices you can get the accessories/tyres for before negotiating with the dealer.

Hope this helps

Post by **ludacris** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 11:04 am

Why not the TD 4.2. Even if you have to get one with a little extra KM's.

Post by **mabsydney** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 11:49 am

thanx for replies, guess ill just go and talk to them...ludacris......i dont see many late model 4.2L for sale......compared to 3L there are hardly any...

Post by **bundyrum4x4** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:26 pm

ludacris wrote:Why not the TD 4.2. Even if you have to get one with a little extra KM's.

wait and get a 4.2. Everyone I know who has got the 3ltr has regretted it.

Post by **patrolman** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 1:04 pm

bundyrum4x4 wrote:wait and get a 4.2. Everyone I know who has got the 3ltr has regretted it.

we dont regret it anymore :twisted:

Post by **bundyrum4x4** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 2:56 pm

patrolman wrote:
bundyrum4x4 wrote:wait and get a 4.2. Everyone I know who has got the 3ltr has regretted it.

we dont regret it anymore

But, if you had the choice, what engine would you like them to fit, the 3ltr :cool:

, or the 4.2 :twisted:

Post by **bundyrum4x4** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 2:58 pm

mabsydney wrote:thanx for replies, guess ill just go and talk to them...ludacris......i dont see many late model 4.2L for sale......compared to 3L there are hardly any...

Maybe thats becouse those with the 4.2 dont want to sell them

Post by **patrolman** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 2:59 pm

bundyrum4x4 wrote:
patrolman wrote:
bundyrum4x4 wrote:wait and get a 4.2. Everyone I know who has got the 3ltr has regretted it.

we dont regret it anymore

But, if you had the choice, what engine would you like them to fit, the 3ltr , or the 4.2

what do you think? :twisted:

Post by **bundyrum4x4** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 3:14 pm

patrolman wrote:
bundyrum4x4 wrote:
patrolman wrote:
bundyrum4x4 wrote:wait and get a 4.2. Everyone I know who has got the 3ltr has regretted it.

we dont regret it anymore

But, if you had the choice, what engine would you like them to fit, the 3ltr , or the 4.2

what do you think?

Rest my case

Post by **morkz** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 7:49 am

mabsydney wrote:I'm trying to decide whether I can afford to buy a new Patrol next year instead of second hand.

Has anyone managed to negotiate with Nissan to get decent tyres, aftermarket suspension fitted on a new vehicle instead of the stock gear? I mean they would be saving on the tyres I don't want and the stock suspension can be fitted to another vehicle.......do you reckon I would be able to get a reduction on the cost of the after market gear using that argument???

thanx,

Martin

hey

when i bought my patrol i got i tried to get a bit of stuff fitted predelivery

changed tyres to 35" MTRS (315/75/16) +$500 (dealer did a bit of mistake was meant to be around $950)

Suspension OME LTR's around $1700 fitted with coils

rear kaymar bar with swing away $2000

not sure if that was exactly what u were looking for

Post by **mabsydney** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 9:41 am

morkz, yeah thats the kind of thing im looking for, thanx it helps...

others......the 3L/4.2L debate could run for ever I think! Points taken though.......hard to make the decision!

can't wait to get a patrol.......at least then my cape york trip will be in comfort.....don't fancy that trip in the defender!

Post by **bogged** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 9:44 am

mabsydney wrote:thanx for replies, guess ill just go and talk to them...ludacris......i dont see many late model 4.2L for sale......compared to 3L there are hardly any...

There are reasons behind that.... why sell something good?

Post by **XFACTOR** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 10:38 am

bogged wrote:
mabsydney wrote:thanx for replies, guess ill just go and talk to them...ludacris......i dont see many late model 4.2L for sale......compared to 3L there are hardly any...

There are reasons behind that.... why sell something good?

The 4.2 only just got released...we only got ours last thursday..

Post by **patrolman** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 11:07 am

XFACTOR wrote:
bogged wrote:
mabsydney wrote:thanx for replies, guess ill just go and talk to them...ludacris......i dont see many late model 4.2L for sale......compared to 3L there are hardly any...

There are reasons behind that.... why sell something good?

The 4.2 only just got released...we only got ours last thursday..

i think he is talking about the older models

Post by **bogged** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 11:43 am

mabsydney wrote:others......the 3L/4.2L debate could run for ever I think! Points taken though.......hard to make the decision!!

No its not! There is no easier decision on the planet

Post by **mabsydney** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 8:29 pm

bogged wrote:No its not! There is no easier decision on the planet

...there is...it comes down to money in the end and the 4.2L is more expensive

Post by **XFACTOR** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:01 pm

mabsydney wrote:
bogged wrote:No its not! There is no easier decision on the planet

...there is...it comes down to money in the end and the 4.2L is more expensive

ok, if it's a shopping trolley, settle for the 3 litre...
If it will be used off road get the 4.2...alot better!

Post by **Not For Highway Use** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:25 am

Martin
I bought a coil cab new in 2002 from Ferntree Gully Nissan near Melb. Came with front locker, koni's, ARB bar and rails, winch, compressor etc. No problem. For $80 you can get a flight down and drive home!!! I paid about $53k on the road includeing extras which was rec retail for the truck at the time.

Post by **bogged** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:35 am

mabsydney wrote:...there is...it comes down to money in the end and the 4.2L is more expensive

Theres a reason for that.. you pay for what you get.

Poor people cant afford cheap things.

Post by **morkz** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 10:26 am

mabsydney wrote:
...there is...it comes down to money in the end and the 4.2L is more expensive

I dont understand why your going to the 3l you had defender, arent u going to a patrol for reliability.

If your going bush go the 4.2 in the end it will be cheaper as 3L parts are more expensive.

the reason why i say all this i had disco and yes they were fine around town but pure reliablity was the main cause and it ruinied many trips. Thats why it was easier to choose a 4.2.

Even if you buy GU 4.2 non turbo and turbo it yourself you would be better.

Post by **mabsydney** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:42 am

Not for highway use........that sounds promising.....thats what I'm looking for a good deal on the whole package.

Morkz........I'm changing to a Patrol for reliablility and comfort. So many people are putting me off the 3L.... I guess I just like the 3L on paper, but you're right I want a solid reliable truck that I can keep for 10 years or so....

One of my biggest gripes with the defender is the throttle surge....very hard to control at low speed....I want to be rid of that for sure

So 4.2L.......mmmm.....I can see the arguments....

Post by **bundyrum4x4** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 2:31 pm

mabsydney wrote:
I'm changing to a Patrol for reliablility and comfort. So many people are putting me off the 3L.... I guess I just like the 3L on paper, but you're right I want a solid reliable truck that I can keep for 10 years or so....

So 4.2L.......mmmm.....I can see the arguments....

You will thank us all later for this

Post by **mabsydney** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 3:19 pm

haha........you may be right.....ill let you know when i buy....next year someitme

Post by **morkz** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 8:57 pm

mabsydney wrote:haha........you may be right.....ill let you know when i buy....next year someitme

oh u will.........

when u go away with mates and they have 3L and the 3L start to shit themselves you'll be thankful that you have the 4.2 :armsup:

Post by **toughnut** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 10:30 pm

There is also a very good reason why the cab chassis' only come with the 4.2L. Thats because it's a reliable work horse of an engine.

Post by **Mark2** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 10:41 pm

One thing to keep in mind is that you pay stamp duty on the total invoice price. If you get a good deal on the accessories you want then no problem. But the usual dealer stuff like tinting, paint and fabric protection, crap accessories etc which is just cream for them is a ripoff.

Post by **morkz** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 5:40 pm

Mark2 wrote:One thing to keep in mind is that you pay stamp duty on the total invoice price. If you get a good deal on the accessories you want then no problem. But the usual dealer stuff like tinting, paint and fabric protection, crap accessories etc which is just cream for them is a ripoff.

i totally agree on that type shit do that part yourself :cool:

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