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285/75/16s on a 2in susp. lifted 40 series - will they fit?

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285/75/16s on a 2in susp. lifted 40 series - will they fit?

Post by shorty_f0rty »

Anyone know if I can just throw these straight on without any major mods? I'm currently running 235/75/16 Cooper AT's at the moment and i'm seriously considering 285/75/16 Cooper STT's depending on what the trade in I can get on my AT's from Fourby's.

Any info would be appreciated.
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Post by RV80 »

will 285's fit on split rim's? going by your avatar pic
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Post by shorty_f0rty »

why would split rims be an issue?
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Post by RV80 »

aren't 285's to wide for splits?
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Post by bj42turbo »

Yeah I was thinking splits would be a bit narrow which are generally 16x5.5. I had splits with 235/85/16 tyres and they were pushing the limit, now have same tyres fitted to 16x7 roh II white steel rims. I was thinking I would like to run a taller tyre but no more width as my steering is heavy enough as it is. :D On a recent trip one of Daz's mates I am fairly sure was running some Cooper 285/75/16 on his 40 but they were on 16x8 rims.


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Post by shorty_f0rty »

hmm.. Thats a bit of a bummer..

I have some 31-11.5R15's on steel rims in the garage at the moment and I could possibly use those I guess.. I noticed on the coopers website that they do 33-12.5'R15 that could maybe fit that rim.. not sure?

I'm not too keen of putting the extra stress of the phats on the power steering and last time I had those 31"s on it made freeway driving a bit of a challange..

I would prefer to keep using my 16 split rims as they are a bit easier to find/repair/replace in remote areas...

How about 255/85/R16's? (33" OD) would they have the same issue as th 285's? Just looking at alternatives for bigger rubber..

I'm goin over to Fourby's on saturday morning to see what they can do with the pro-rata trade-in and the i'll mention the rim situation.. that will probably be more of a limiting factor rather than the max size for my 2in lift... but still any info you guys can share would still be appreciated..
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Post by RV80 »

what about using a return to centre steering
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Post by Tojo »

255/85/R16's will fit your standard split rims no worries. I run wide tyres with no power steering and its not much bother at all.
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Post by shorty_f0rty »

Well.. after a bit of research and a heap of reading i have made a decision..

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That is to get 33x10.5xR15 Simex Jungle Trekker 2's.. now I'm pretty sure that these should fit with a 2in lift without any major issues..


does anyone else know for sure and can confirm this?

This works out well as I'll have 2 sets of tyres and is probably the best idea (legal - 235/16's and not-legal - 33x10.5 radials treads...)

Will this bite me in the a$$ once i get them on or will it be smooth sailing?
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Post by alrob »

sure, they'll fit under and look sweet when its parked, but any articulation, and the tyres are gonna ride straight up into the wheel tub. i was considering 33's for my 4 runner with 3" body lift, but talking to the guy at the tyre place, who has done a lot of work on 4WD's and owned them, said that I'd have all sorts of troubles with them, not to mention steering, braking etc. so i'm just going 31 muds and call it a day at that!
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Post by plowy »

fitted 33 x 12.5 wranglers awesome tyre on 15 x 8'' rims to stop the side wall bulge n only have a ome suspension 2'' above standard hieght no body lift yet starting to see some flaring to the rear gaurds n some grabing of the front guard lip from getting crossed up in ugly posis some draging on the drag link i think its called other than that best tyre n best move yet as for any wonder did have to adjust caster n just gettin used to a different feel
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Post by Tojo »

buy the tyres if thats what you want. Do not get put off by people telling you about them rubbing. They will rub on full articulation and possibly even on full lock. Does it matter? Nope!! Cutting the rear guards is real easy. If your concerned about rubbing then don't venture past the maccas carpark!
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Post by bj42turbo »

The angle grinder is your friend when you start modding a 40 :D
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Post by plowy »

sorry wasn't trying to put him off about tyre rubbing just letting him b aware of the fact of it than trying to bullshit sayin yeah its a sweat fit no dramas thats all n as for the angle grinder nnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooo not yet any way
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Post by 40 lover »

i run 33x12.5's on a 2 inch lift

it very rarley scrubs going round corners (only if i'm going really fast)

the 3b and stock gears turn them fine

they very rarley scrub on articulation..............

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Post by 4sum4 »

I run 33x 10.5xR15 with stock suspension and they just scrub on the pitman arm on full lock and compresion and they also just rub the tie rod on the drag link end and thats with hilux offset,so with and inch more offset it wan`t scrub if that is any help to you
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Post by dibbz »

Hurry up and get em so I can try em...

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Post by shorty_f0rty »

woo.. they have been ordered.. get fitted this friday hopefully or monday week.. can't wait to try them out on saturday.. ormeau here I come!

picked up a tank for onboard air today so that should help ease changing sets with a rattle gun .. not sure if i want to ditch my aircon for a air comp just yet though..
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Post by shorty_f0rty »

Finally got em this morning..

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wotcha reckon?

I think i need to start chopping.. any recommendations for chopping a 40?
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Post by Busiboy »

I thinkn that the back arches will be your nemisis.

4" grinder and leave it about 1/2" longer than you want and fold it 180 degree's to eliminate sharp edges.

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Post by plowy »

also bend the front guard lip up as the lugs like to grab it on full lock n twist
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Post by bj42turbo »

Hey they look the biz, looks like you will have to get intimate with your grinder. got any pics with the soft doors on


Cheers Dazz

Mine are cut up to the top of the inner wheel arch with a jigsaw like what Tojo said

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Post by Tojo »

Use a jigsaw. Carefully measure out the clearances for your rear guards. Use something round to do the corners like the end of a silicone tube or something. Rounded edges look better than straight angled ones. I cut mine as close to the front as possible and as close to the floorline as possible and a few inches further back. Measure carefully and mark out both sides. I didn't leave any spare to bend over as a lip but its probably a good idea. I haven't done my front guards yet but probably should soon as they are pretty mangled!! The tyres hit the front lip. Your car's looking pretty good!
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