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Post by **NICK** » Sun Mar 16, 2003 11:57 am

dont know much about them, so i need alittle input.

Im looking at a mig, 0.6-0.9mm wire, gas and gasless, 175amps.
I believe that this would be a good mid strength welder, am i right? what amperage do most of you have.

Looking at general use, welding hangers, sliders etc, no tube chassis building.

NICK

Post by **Blackzook** » Sun Mar 16, 2003 2:38 pm

Nick,
Esab Smashweld
180amp it's the ducks guts.
Not cheap but it's worth the money.
Buy slightly bigger than u need that way you'll always have scope to play with.

Bruce

Post by **taziiy** » Sun Mar 16, 2003 3:00 pm

not a bad welder use one of them at work

Post by **Surfection** » Sun Mar 16, 2003 3:17 pm

UNI MIG 240 Amp. I knew i would be welding 10mm plate etc so i followed some good advice and went the big biatch. Very glad i did.

Post by **dave** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 8:06 am

ESAB 200amp
Nick get about 200amp you'll use it belive me, once you have the welder there at home you'll use it to its full at some stage.You need the amperage to weld 6-8mm plate hope this helps

Mon Mar 17, 2003 8:54 am

Uni-mig 240.

I wouldnt go any smaller than that.

If you could stretch your budget to a uni-mig 255 i would get that as it has a better duty cycle than the 240 and a bit better internals as it is in their industrial range.

Post by **Surfection** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 1:57 pm

If you could stretch your budget to a uni-mig 255 i would get that as it has a better duty cycle than the 240 and a bit better internals as it is in their industrial range.

Three Phase :roll:

Post by **paz** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 3:50 pm

i got a WIA fabricator,,350 amp or there abouts,,at the moment i'm running 1.2 wire,,damn near melts holes in 16mm plate ...
seriously if i was to buy a 240 volt one i would go for as big as i could get,,the best thing is u can always turn a big mig down,,,but sure as hell if u buy a smaller one u will wish u had a few extra amps when u try to weld somethin heavy,,and dont say you wont,,,cause you damn well know you will want to later....
paz

Mon Mar 17, 2003 4:22 pm

Surfection wrote:
If you could stretch your budget to a uni-mig 255 i would get that as it has a better duty cycle than the 240 and a bit better internals as it is in their industrial range.

Three Phase

have another look :roll:

EDIT:

Straight out of the catalogue for a UNI-MIG 255

Input voltage: 240V-1ph.

Post by **Fathillbilly** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 5:42 pm

ive got a CIG 265 it is the biggest 240v one they make. the best thing about CIG is you can get parts for them anywhere, ive use it on everthing from 0.4mm to 20mm with out a problem. ESAB are also good, but when things go wrong you could be waiting a while for parts i have had quite a few problems with WIA in the past, thats not to say they havent got it together now as that was about 10 years ago.

good luck

Post by **NICK** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 7:45 pm

i been looking around today, i think i will go with a 200 amp, i know all of you have bigger and said to go bigger but i want a smaller one to use around the house, the old man has a cigweld 350amp which i can use if the need be, along with oxy, tig, plasma and awhole lot of other shit i would have no idea how to use.

On, a side note i got a new rattle gun :evil:

NICK

Post by **Surfection** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 9:50 pm

$hit, sorry mick, i thought the whole industrial range was three phase.

Post by **RUFF** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 9:56 pm

Nick i think you should get at least a 240 cause i dont realy want you leaving it here if its smaller than that :lol:

:wink: :wink:

Tue Mar 18, 2003 7:35 am

Surfection wrote::lol: $hit, sorry mick, i thought the whole industrial range was three phase.

the 345 and up is 3 phase :wink:

Post by **Shorty40** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 10:18 am

This thread resembles the old, "should I go 33s or bigger ?" :lol:

If you get the smaller one, eventually you will wish that you went for the next one up :roll:

As always bigger is better :wink:

Post by **N*A*M** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 10:44 am

what is the difference between 1 phase and 3 phase?

Post by **2car** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 12:26 pm

N*A*M wrote:what is the difference between 1 phase and 3 phase?

You can pull far more power through a three phase outlet. Three phase has three active lines, 120 degrees out of phase. Single phase has only one active line. Three phase runs at around 415V - single phase around 240V.

Single phase power = voltage x current(amps) [ eg. 240x15 = 3.6 kW]

Three phase power = voltage x current(amps) x sqrt3 [ eg. 415x30xsqrt3 = 22.5kW]

Post by **Brad** » Tue Mar 18, 2003 6:00 pm

You need to make sure that it has a coper cored transformer ... the cheaper ones and smaller ones often have an alloy cored one and it is not uncommon for these to melt into a puddle of poo when you wind up the amps and start testing the duty cycle..

I use a Welmac 280 single phase and am very happy with it. Also have an sip 170 and 150 , the 150 is to small but the 170 is fine if you don't need teh duty cycle of the bigger ones.

Post by **NICK** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 8:43 am

Shorty40 wrote:
If you get the smaller one, eventually you will wish that you went for the next one up

but i wont, i have a bigger one i can use and all i am looking for is one to use around the house that can do most general things, so this thread resembles the "i run 42's off road, should i run 28's on"

NICK

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