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The Jabber Renaissance Project - SAS

Tech Talk for Mitsubishi owners.

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Post by MrGenius »

Looking pretty wicked Frank :cool: :D
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Post by Grantw »

Gee that has come up a treat. Now its time to teach the nissan owners a lesson or two!
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Post by moose »

saw it yesterday in the flesh !!! :cool: :cool: :twisted:

very very nice !!
(no ramp at the moment , it went home !! :? )

should be driving , by now !! HEY frank !!! ;)
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Post by RoldIT »

moose wrote:(no ramp at the moment , it went home !! :? )


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Post by Bitsamissin »

Yeah he tells me the ramp maybe back by the weekend.
The front springs are too soft (dives under brakes) so some stiffer ones have to go in.
Just some very minor stuff left and the wheel alignment.
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Post by moose »

Frank , do you have a camera fone ??? (or e-mail addy !!)
I have a couple of pics 4 ya !!!! HeHe !!! :twisted:
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Post by Bitsamissin »

Yeah home is frankyz@austarmetro.com.au and work is frank.zanetti@cemaust.com.au

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Post by MrGenius »

They dobinsons springs frank?
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Post by Bitsamissin »

Yep their Dobinson springs.
A spy sent these to me ;)

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Post by Cheezy4x4 »

WTF ;)
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Post by -Scott- »

I'm guessing those Safeway gutters will never seem quite so challenging...

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Post by RUFF »

Are you using off the shelf style springs(eg;Rangie,Patrol,Cruiser) or are these custom made?
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Post by rocknferoza »

looking awsome Frank :D
Can't wait 2 see some pics of it flexing on the ramp
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Post by 99Montero »

If we dont get pics of it whiles it not driveable, then we'll never get any. Frank will be out wheeling all day and all night and will never have time to take any pics :lol: :lol: :lol: J/k

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Post by Bitsamissin »

Yes Cheezy found GQ springs fit into the Paj rear perches it's tight but works. The front are GQ coil perches and shock towers.
The springs are Dobinson GQ 3" lift coils and the shocks Tough Dog adjustabales. All the bushes are standard GQ he tries to use as much off the shelf stuff as possible so replacememts are easy.
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Post by moose »

Bitsamissin wrote:Yep their Dobinson springs.
A spy sent these to me ;)

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Post by RUFF »

Bitsamissin wrote:Yes Cheezy found GQ springs fit into the Paj rear perches it's tight but works. The front are GQ coil perches and shock towers.
The springs are Dobinson GQ 3" lift coils and the shocks Tough Dog adjustabales. All the bushes are standard GQ he tries to use as much off the shelf stuff as possible so replacememts are easy.


This is always the best way to do this kind of thing. Getting custom coils would have been a PITA every time you wanted to change the set up.
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Post by moose »

So ....
pajero + GQ + Bundera + hilux = ???
:? :twisted:

all it needs now is a Chev under the bonnet & it will be cookin' !!! :D
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Post by awbeattie381 »

that is unreal!!!!!!!!!!!!!

when will it be in 4wd monthly?
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Super Pajero :cool:
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Post by xappas »

I am seriously thinking the SAS idea, although nobody has done it before here (at least in a pajero). First I have to look for the right axle. The problem is the position of the differential (driver's side). I would prefer not to get involved with swaping if possible.

I know that there are Dana's 30 from Jeeps, but I don't consider them very strong. There are also older Dana's 44 that I am looking for. Do you know other makes/models with front axles and diff in the driver's side?
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xappas wrote:I am seriously thinking the SAS idea, although nobody has done it before here (at least in a pajero). First I have to look for the right axle. The problem is the position of the differential (driver's side). I would prefer not to get involved with swaping if possible.

I know that there are Dana's 30 from Jeeps, but I don't consider them very strong. There are also older Dana's 44 that I am looking for. Do you know other makes/models with front axles and diff in the driver's side?


Pretty sure this one used a Bundera front axle that had the axle tubes cut of and new ones weld on the other side. Then by reading this thread it sounds lke there is some Hilux stuff used for steering bits.
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Post by Bitsamissin »

Yeah it is a hard one...............
I originally wanted to put a Dana 44 in which are available with a left side pumpkin and are the perfect width for a Paj but Dana parts are not that common over here and tend to be expensive. The right one is from a early 80's Jeep Grand Wagoneer but they are only low pinion diffs.
Then I decided on a Hilux axle with a high pinion Bundera diff mainly because parts are everywhere here for them and I could run 5.29's. The only problem is the diff housing has to be reversed but it still runs standard length axles. With the IFS hub spacers the width worked out spot on. I guess the other options are a 80 Series Toyo Cruiser but it would have to be cut down the same with a Nissan Patrol and you end up with non standard axles unless you want the extra width.
I don't know of any other live axle with a left side pumpkin other than the Dana's (I wouldn't touch anything smaller than a 44). Also I strongly recommend to select a high pinion diff so the propshaft lines up much better and gives better ground clearance.
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Post by xappas »

How can I tell if an axle is high or low pinion? :?: I must remind that my front diff is low pinion (according to your database :D ). Does it make any difference...?

I can find Dana 44 here from older Blazers but they are very wide. I am also looking from older CJ's.

One other option I am looking now is from a Mercedes Gwagen. You can find cheap spear parts here from old military supplies. I can get a full car without engine for about 1,200 euros. And both axles have mechanical lockers. :P
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Post by HG »

SWEET I here Rocky track calling :D :D :D :D
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Post by hottiemonster »

HG wrote:SWEET I here Rocky track calling :D :D :D :D


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Post by Bitsamissin »

Well I don't think I'll be busting 25mm MQ tie rods up there in a hurry :D
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Post by hottiemonster »

Bitsamissin wrote:Well I don't think I'll be busting 25mm MQ tie rods up there in a hurry :D


Nah , i dont think so either :cool:
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Post by TuffRR »

When are you going to replace the rest of the pos Mitsubishi stuff Frank? :finger:

Seriously, it looks to have come up really well. I'd make sure to carry around a few fire extinguishers and smoke detectors now. Too much effort has gone into it. :D
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Post by HG »

How about a report on how well the beast goes now ----- have you done any tracks yet ? and of course PHOTO'S :D :D :D :D :D
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