rear travel on lux

Post by **bubs** » Mon Dec 20, 2004 10:19 pm

no, i threw it all out about 2 months ago

Post by **batcho101** » Mon Dec 20, 2004 10:21 pm

thanks anyway dude i''l keep u posted and probably ask a few more questions as the process goes on but i gotta get my fuel pump fixed first then it can start :twisted:

thanks batcho101

Post by **Hybrid** » Mon Dec 20, 2004 10:50 pm

IFS stands for independent front suspension. The guys on here talk about ifs rears they pretty much mean the rear leaf spring packs of the hilux which came with independent front suspension. They are longer. I'm not a tech head but to clarify for the other guys I'm gonna try to explain what I think your saying is wrong with your current setup. I think what your saying is that your rear shackles are angled forward not back at regular ride height. As in
[front] "spring here" / [Rear]. Which would explain no droop and might be from the arch in the 4 inch spring lift. And you think by moving your shackle mount forward your shackle angle will be [Front] "spring here" \ [Rear] thus allowing the shackle forward movement under droop. Moving the shackle mount would have been fixing the part that aint broke

. But since you've already decided to go ifs this is no longer important but thought it might explain to the other guys better.

John

Post by **Aza** » Mon Dec 20, 2004 10:51 pm

bubs wrote:dont listen to aza ok

you need 4x4 hilux rear springs

good ones to get are 1997+ year model hilux's, any 4wd one

oppsy my mistake :oops:

cept i seem to recall having an sms from u telling me they were 2x4 :finger:

Post by **high n mighty** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:07 am

Exactly the same setup

And the difference in length between std raised leaves(with 2" ext shackles) and the ifs rear springs (far one) with 200mm eye to eye shackles..

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Post by **slosh** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 9:02 am

Hard to keep the height with those angled shackles, eh?

Batcho101 I have a heap of near new IFS springs still somewhere in Brissy... pm me if you're interested.

Josh.

Post by **batcho101** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:45 am

High n mighty is that setup on your rig?
Cause mien has raised springs and my 31 inch prielli scorpions came to where my bump stop is welded to the chasis so fromt he looks of this pic it is around the same height.
And yes ifs will definetly be going in with the 200mm eye to eye shackles.
How have u changed your brake adjuster to suit the lift?

Post by **high n mighty** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:59 am

batcho101 wrote:High n mighty is that setup on your rig?
Cause mien has raised springs and my 31 inch prielli scorpions came to where my bump stop is welded to the chasis so fromt he looks of this pic it is around the same height.
And yes ifs will definetly be going in with the 200mm eye to eye shackles.
How have u changed your brake adjuster to suit the lift?

They are 33's and you will see the bracket on the proportioning valve mount that I made up. I'm not sure of what lift it had but it has lost about 1" with these springs. I think it was 2" springs before plus the 2" extended shackles that it did have on.

Post by **batcho101** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 11:09 am

thanks dude mine had 4 inch list in reset springs btu since i removed 2 load carryiing and a standard oen they have lost a bit of height so this might actually ad an inch or 2 to the height.
Do have any problems with axle wrap?
What kind of shock setup are u using?

Post by **high n mighty** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 11:16 am

Mines a project atm and isn't regoed, it hasn't been driven for a while now. In fact I only put the first spring in last weekend and havent braced the second shackle yet....

Diesel028 of the board has been runnin the exact same setup without a ladder bar for a couple of months now with no complaints.

If you were to lighten the pack up from std you would definately need to run one but you can see the difference between the two seperate packs in those pics.....
I think I will stick with the std pack for a while (when rego'd) cause it flex heaps better than oe..

Post by **batcho101** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 11:21 am

thats what i thoguht cause if u use the standard pack it shoudlnt really get more axle wrap then the car it came off.
i will be leavign the packs standard as i cant fit a ladder bar in because of a 140 litre fuel tank fitted there is no room. do u have your tailshaft lengthened or have a spacer fitted

Post by **high n mighty** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 11:42 am

I don't think a spacer of extensive will be needed in the back because the shaft is centralized and it doesn't move the axle by far...

Post by **Aza** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 1:46 pm

i will get some pics of my ifs setup on thursday.....

Post by **high n mighty** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:59 pm

Aza wrote:i will get some pics of my ifs setup on thursday.....

kewl, didn't know you had done it yet. Thought it was a plan for next year. Good stuff..

Post by **De-lux** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 9:04 pm

you got a PM slosh...

Post by **batcho101** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 9:32 pm

Once i have done the ifs conversion i am gonna have spare rears so i may as well put them to good use

so how do i go abotu fiting them to the front?
What do i need to change/add?

Post by **Aza** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 9:53 pm

high n mighty wrote:
Aza wrote:i will get some pics of my ifs setup on thursday.....

kewl, didn't know you had done it yet. Thought it was a plan for next year. Good stuff..

convinced parents it would make the car drive alot smoother.... which is true :lol:

Post by **Aza** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 3:22 pm

pics of tony's when he had ifs and rears up front... will get some of my rear soon :roll:

(im working on it...)

Post by **redzook** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 3:28 pm

Aza wrote:
pics of tony's when he had ifs and rears up front... will get some of my rear soon (im working on it...)

ruff is that a 30 degree ramp? it just dosent look that steep?

AZA was trying to tell me it was!

Post by **Aza** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 3:32 pm

redzook wrote:
Aza wrote:
pics of tony's when he had ifs and rears up front... will get some of my rear soon (im working on it...)

ruff is that a 30 degree ramp? it just dosent look that steep?

AZA was trying to tell me it was!

my eye tells me its 30 degree's :?:

but i guess it is the only flex ramp i have ever seen

still nice flex

Post by **batcho101** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 6:51 pm

yeh that is abotu what i want what size tyres is he running?

Post by **Aza** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 8:02 pm

in that pic 38's

Post by **benhl** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 7:32 am

I have 3" lifted springs from std all round and was wondering how much these std height IFS rears will lift the rear with 200mm centre to centre shackles?

Will i need to pack either front or rear spring mounts to match them up if i put IFS rears in with the 200mm shackles in??

any advbice?

Post by **high n mighty** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 10:52 am

The swap is pretty straight forward except the bushes and the shackles.

The car will sit closer to std height with them in

Post by **Aza** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 1:41 pm

my ifs sit lower than the parabolics :twisted:

, i would say i am down to about a 3" lift with them, that is with ifs rears and 200 mm shackles :armsup:

Post by **high n mighty** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 1:59 pm

Gee I must have had some lift in mine before then

Post by **Aza** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 2:37 pm

urs would sit lower most probable, mine have never really been worn in

Post by **high n mighty** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 2:41 pm

My springs are brand new factory jobbies

Post by **Aza** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 3:11 pm

high n mighty wrote:My springs are brand new factory jobbies

might have to get the tape out

but with the parabolics still in the front the rear sits about an inch lower and the parabolics in the front are around 3.5" - 4" lift (or were....)

Post by **bubs** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 4:47 pm

aza some pics shes sitting low

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