departure angle on surf

Post by **pit** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 8:29 am

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Hi,

Ive been making changes to my 94, KZN130. Ive put on a snorkel, arb winch bar (winch next when I can afford it!!), OME suspension and 31 10.5 MT tyres. Its going really well ... except the departure angle isnt great at all. My spare tyre is under the car too.

Im thinking about ripping off the rear bumper and moving the exhaust somewhere.

Im wondering what my options are?? Does anyone have any idea?? Id love to get a black steel bumper made to match the front with hooks on etc ... but Im guessing this is going to be a mission??

Has anyone changed their wheel from under to the back? Was that a mission??

any ideas would be much appreciated.

regards,

Post by **-Nemesis-** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 10:30 am

The easiest thing and first thing you should do is a body lift. A 2" lift will naturally lift the rear up 2 inches etc....
Unless you've already done it?

I just did my 4Runner on Sunday, never done one before but it only took half a day with a mate.

Try this, it should be your 4WD bible if you own a surf:

http://www.toyotasurf.asn.au/techsite/

Post by **bigpat** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 10:55 am

Pit,
The Surf site is where you wanna go for info, particularly for a KZN model.

Body lift is easiest way to get a better departure angle. The spare mounted underneath shouldn't affect the departure angle, but putting in a bodylift will, as the spare is attached to a chassis crossmember, and will protrude. Mine has a 2" (or so)suspension lift, and have never been hung up on the back towbar.

Aas for ripping off the bumper and making a new one, unless done right, matching the body contours, it will look pox

The exhaust can be tucked up right under the body, only drooping down at the end, just short of the bumper (like mine), or exiting sideways, just behind the mud flap, again, no lower than the bumper.

Another option is bigger boots, and more lift!

Toyota Surf username: bigpat

Cheers,

Pat

Post by **pit** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 9:28 pm

Thanks heaps for your input. The OME coils gave me about 2 I think. But Im sure Im going to lose the rear bumper soon?! .... Ive already bent it big time. Im actually thinking about going a bigger dia in the exhaust ... at the same time have it pop out somewhere better. Still doing my home work. The surf site has a load of awesome info alright ... will be reading that for days.

many thanks again

Post by **bigpat** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 10:41 pm

No sweat bro!

Post by **-Nemesis-** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 11:06 pm

With a 3 or even 2" body lift and some 33" rubber, if you're still hindered heaps by the departue angle you may wanna consider a Hilux lol.
Having said that, mine hinders me a bit too, but my tow bar cross brace thing acts like a rock slider. I just drag her along it

Post by **Bitsamissin** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 6:50 am

My mate has a 94 V6 4 Runner and the rear departure angle sucks.
He has a 2" suspension lift and the Kaymar rear bumper with spare wheel carrier which has improved it.
But he has hit the spare tyre going up steep hills when the front end kicks up which has bent the wheel carrier mount slightly.
His needs a 2" body lift big time to get reasonable rear clearance.

Post by **Surfin Alec** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 11:57 am

I have a 3" body lift, 2" springs, 33" and I have a 7.50 x 16 spare under the rear. Dont really have a problem with the departure angle (thats what tow bars are for - ie: rear sliders). Never touch the spare either.

Alec

Post by HG » Sun Dec 26, 2004 3:37 pm

It's easily fixed with 2" body lift & 5" lifted coils

Oh and while your at it whack in a solid front

then try and scape the rear end :twisted:

Post by **NICK** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 6:23 pm

cut the back off it

Post by **Aza** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 6:50 pm

something like this....

Post by **double diffa** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 9:27 pm

where do you get this done and how much?

Post by **tomsoffroad** » Mon Dec 27, 2004 7:28 am

Do it ya self. Might be abit more work with not having the removable top thought. Mine took awhile but wasn't all that hard.

Post by HG » Mon Dec 27, 2004 10:36 pm

Tom,
You need more flex on that puppy man :cool:

Post by **tomsoffroad** » Tue Dec 28, 2004 7:16 am

Yeah I know!!!!! Was thinking of movin the axles to the very ends of the truck and putting them on pivots so they can spin a full 360degrees........... Just like a propellar

Post by **BIg StEvE** » Tue Dec 28, 2004 8:52 pm

HG put some pics up of ya rig man looks impressive!

Post by **GoPies** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 6:43 pm

Here's some pics of HG's beast taken on some recent trips to Eden and the Cobaw SF.

Hope you don't mind HG

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Post by **RUFF** » Thu Dec 30, 2004 1:35 pm

How about doing this?

Post by **NICK** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 11:07 am

that looks like a jackaroo rear 1/4

NICK

Post by **RUFF** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 11:10 am

Its got an Extra cab grafted on to the back of it. If you look it actuall has all the frame there. Thats not a box its backed up to. Thats sitting on the back of it. But it gives an idea as to what could be done. If you lost the bottom of the guard and cut the rest of the frame off it would prob look ok..

Post by **pit** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:44 pm

cheers for all your advice. ive got a bar made on the back now and its working great.

Post by **benhl** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:40 am

Aza wrote:something like this....

CHOP!!! Than get a rear barto replace and std one with proper tow points etc and i dare you to try and hit it. Mine is the lux ute and by god i've tried and cant hit it. btw, ive neatened the weld etc and now it is very hard to tell what i did just looks funny at a glance (good for prying cop eyes) UN-POSSIBLE

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