Floor coverings, Carpet replacement

[V8Patrol]

I thought it would be better if it was listed as a seperate subject..... the thread where it started is @ ...

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=32976

Hottiemonster is bogged thread.

[V8Patrol]

We looked into the "carpet removal" trick for the General Lee in a big way, here's what we found....

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"If a floor covering is fitted it must not have any tears/holes etc that can effect the vehicle operator or passengers in any way". Thats what Vicroads had to say about carpet & floor coverings in general....nothing about NOT having any carpet etc !!!!
So its legal to remove any floor covering.... mind you a tear or hole in the floor coverinmg makes the vehicle "unroadworthy", apparently the reason being that in an accident ppl can become entangled in such rips/tears/holes and removal by emergency personal may be hindered.

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Sound deadner..... works great in internal panels but thats about it !.
Its easilly removed by spilt fuel, oils and other petrochemical products. Its also not heat resistant and WILL leave a sticky residue to the soles of your shoes if you place your feet over warm part of the floor ( like where the zorst pipe runs under the floor !! ).
Its not particulary hard wearing either and will not suit high traffic areas....like where ya stick ya feet !
but it is cheap !

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Tar panels ..... man this is great shyte, but you would have to pimp bogged out for 10 years in order to purchase 1 sheet of the stuff !!! Its farken expensive.
Sheets come in 300mmx300mm and are applied by laying it over the area to be "protected" and simply heated by a hair drier untill the shape has been achived. once applied this stuff will protect against water damage in a big way.
This is the stuff that manafactures use for 99% of floors in vehicles today, be it passenger compartment or boot area.

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Stone guard ..... This product is designed for external surfaces IE: sills, front panels, wheel arches, etc and is designed to withstand the punishment it receives in the mentioned areas....stones being flicked up at high speeds will not crack/chip this stuff, neither will a few billion bugs !
Its durable and has a semi "nonslip" surface finish.
It does requier a "special" spray gun to spray it on, but can be applied with a brush once the stuff is warmed up .... ( USE CAUTION WHEN HEATING IT )
Best method of warming it up is to place the OPEN can into a pot of water and then heat.... best temp for brush application is about as hot as you can immerse your hands into...any hotter and it will run everywhere !
By spraying it on you will get a much neater appearance in the final finish compared to the brush on method. I dont think a panel beater would charge that much if you did all the preperation and all he had to do was wave the gun around for 10 mins !

conclusion .....
You WILL suffer from higher road noise with the floor coverings removed....wait untill you drive a gravel road at speed !!!
You reduce the likelyhood of rust occouring under floor coverings dramatically once its had any one of the above "tar based" coverings applied.
You can hose the interior out after its become filthy !
You can refit ya carpet when its time to sell the vehicle and it wont look as worn !


Kingy

p/s we applied the "Stone Guard" product to the General Lee's floor and I will be applying it to my commodore and my patrol floors in the not to distant future.

[V8Patrol]

Thanks for the good write up.

What do you think of this stuff?
http://www.qmcc.com.au/article.php?stor ... 8225414908

[V8Patrol]

Thanks for the good write up.

What do you think of this stuff?
http://www.qmcc.com.au/article.php?story=20030118225414908

I havent seen it b4 but I would think its a "mat" rather than an actual applied covering.

I did however forget one other product that needs mentioning...

RINO UTE BACKS have developed a sprayon "urathene" based product that is water proof, durable,shock resistant, and long lasting. I did a search on the net but found nothing, mind you thye are a new company that has just released this product into the market place.

It is designed primarly for "Tradesman utilities" where owners have traditionally placed moulded plastic liners into the backs of their utes. These moulded plactic drop in n go liners do not seal up and they are known to cause rust and may accelerate the rust process.

I've also started another thread on this topic in the Tech section and have linked the two together ...... easier for future searches !

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=33150

Kingy

[V8Patrol]

I cant think of any other substitutes at the moment but I dare say others will have a few .....

[scorched]

im going to get rid off the fluffy crap on the back there. Cut out rust in the footwells . replace with sheet. Slap sound deadnor all over the place. i was thinkn inside all the panels then all over the floor and on top on the tar surface already there. Ontop of sound deadnor i want to put new fluffy stuff back on so the floor feels nice a squishy. Rubber inlays then be put ontop. Voila new rubber floor. (Anyone know a good place to buy rubber floors for a mq swb patrol)

What do you think???

[Busiboy]

I read about doing the spray on liner as a floor covering a while ago in a US Mag. I think the only downside was asthetics and dollars.

They took the jeep to the spray on liner place, stripped the interior, acid washed it, sprayed it, refitted it, and charged the $$.

Sounds like a good idea and I am thinking about it myself.

Was going to do the sounds deadener in the short term.

[V8Patrol]

im going to get rid off the fluffy crap on the back there. Cut out rust in the footwells . replace with sheet. Slap sound deadnor all over the place. i was thinkn inside all the panels then all over the floor and on top on the tar surface already there. Ontop of sound deadnor i want to put new fluffy stuff back on so the floor feels nice a squishy. Rubber inlays then be put ontop. Voila new rubber floor. (Anyone know a good place to buy rubber floors for a mq swb patrol)

What do you think???

Like I said above ..... Sound deadner is good for no working areas...
It will wear fairly quickly in high traffic areas but in areas that receive little or no use such as under the seats, its a good thing.
The coverings we put back in however cause condensation and do lead to eventual rust problems such as the ones your about to cut out. If you dont run any liner at all and spray on a product such as either the Rino stuff or stone guard then rust will become a pretty well non event.

Removing the horsehair underlay will also greatly reduce the rust problems, but in doing so it will increase the road noise in the cab dramaticaly, like everything else in life ......its a trade off

Kingy