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Mounting fuel cell

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Mounting fuel cell

Post by up2nogood »

Just wondering:

Can you fit a fuel cell in a cargo/rear passenger area?

Legally I mean? My thoughts are not (as potential for disaster in passenger area is high) but don't know for sure.
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Post by RV80 »

I would have to say wagon no, sedan yes.
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Post by CRUSHU »

plastic fuel cells are illegal in all cases, no matter where they are mounted, as they are suposed to be mounted inside a metal case, and they are then just used as a bladder.
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Post by up2nogood »

Shoulda mentioned, this one's a steel fuel cell.
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Post by CRUSHU »

i've never seen a steel fuel cell, only aluminium or plastic. is it a home made jobbie?
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Post by up2nogood »

My bad. Aluminium. :oops:
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Post by CRUSHU »

ok, alloy you may have better luck.

i didn't think you were allowed fuel tanks inside the car, but fj40's and cj jeeps have them under the front seats. you will need to make it fill, and vent outside. it will have to be COMPLETELY sealed in the cabin. post up how you go with if they are even legal at all, even if mounted outside, as i am using one in my ftruck, and don't want to add it to the many laws i break by driving it.
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Post by RUFF »

CRUSHU wrote:plastic fuel cells are illegal in all cases, no matter where they are mounted, as they are suposed to be mounted inside a metal case, and they are then just used as a bladder.


So how do the car manufacturers get around the fact that there are lots of cars that come factory with a plastic fuel tank?

I had a JAZ fuel cell on my hilux and there was no problems as far as the engineer or Transport department in QLD were concerned. I also know guys running the same Cells in the boot. And as long as they externaly fill and vent they are fine.
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Post by RV80 »

RUFF wrote:I had a JAZ fuel cell on my hilux and there was no problems as far as the engineer or Transport department in QLD were concerned. I also know guys running the same Cells in the boot. And as long as they externaly fill and vent they are fine.


I know guys doing the same thing. I wouldn't put one in a wagon though.
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Post by up2nogood »

I'm thinking the same thing. When we used to set up rally cars we'd weld a full steel plate between the boot cavity and where the back seat used to be to isolate the sucker.

Don't reckon I'd like to have it in the passenger/load compartment with me, even if it is able to be engineered.

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Post by CRUSHU »

RUFF wrote:
So how do the car manufacturers get around the fact that there are lots of cars that come factory with a plastic fuel tank?

I had a JAZ fuel cell on my hilux and there was no problems as far as the engineer or Transport department in QLD were concerned. I also know guys running the same Cells in the boot. And as long as they externaly fill and vent they are fine.


all OEM components have to pass ADR's. every single part on a new car has passed extensive testing. I don't think anyone has tested a fuel cell in the same way.

maybe things are different in QLD, but I know plenty of streeters getting busted for running fuel cells in the boot.
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