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Nissan owners with Nick Mannell lifts

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Nissan owners with Nick Mannell lifts

Post by morkz »

Hey i know a few of you are running his lift kits

just want to know what u think them are they any good

Nick says his 5" lift makes the vehicle drive better than factory is this true?

any feed back much apprecaited.
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Re: Nissan owners with Nick Mannell lifts

Post by bogged »

morkz wrote:Nick says his 5" lift makes the vehicle drive better than factory is this true?


Do you think he would sell many if he said it drove like a chunk of shit?
What he thinks is better maynot be your idea of better
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Post by Bartso »

honestly i can't see it being better than factory maybe just as good as factory
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Post by lukeash »

mate i have had his 7inch lift on my GQ with the bolt on 5link as well and i love it. have not had any probs with as yet and handling on road is good better than i thought it would be. when im on the road i have both sway bars connected and it does make a difference. weather or not the 5inch will handle better than standard i dont no but it is good susp and ive not had any probs. hope this helps email if you want any pics or more ?s
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Post by stool »

Mine handled like a plate of jelly with 6" lift no swaybars ,soft coils plus soft shocks
but once I got the thing out in the bush it was well worth the on road trade off.

The 5" lift could handle ok with

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Re: mega lift

Post by morkz »

lukeash wrote:mate i have had his 7inch lift on my GQ with the bolt on 5link as well and i love it. have not had any probs with as yet and handling on road is good better than i thought it would be. when im on the road i have both sway bars connected and it does make a difference. weather or not the 5inch will handle better than standard i dont no but it is good susp and ive not had any probs. hope this helps email if you want any pics or more ?s



hey mate would you be able to send any pics to me

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Re: Nissan owners with Nick Mannell lifts

Post by morkz »

bogged wrote:What he thinks is better maynot be your idea of better


Yeah i know where your coming from bogged, you have to praise what you market i guess.

But he's kits seem to be the most popular on the market, even compared to the big balls kit and a few others.
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Re: Nissan owners with Nick Mannell lifts

Post by Bingham »

he says his 5" lift makes the vehicle drive better than factory is this true?
any feed back much apprecaited.[/quote]

i think it would be a silly for any man to say "better"- this is a huge call and quite frankly in my opinon well out of left field.

"As good as" is actually realistic- either they are 'good' saleman or they havnt relised what they have said......

you ask them to put there money on the line if their that sure it will be better and if it is pay dollars if not pay 1/2.

If their kits are that good......excelent i''ll probly get one next..
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Post by muzza_fattire »

I've got one.
7 inch. No body lift. No swaybars. Tough Dog shocks adjusted to hard.
Bouncy on the road over bumps but goes round corners pretty well.
You can play with the relative stiffness of the shocks from front to rear...
Harder up front makes it more understeer and lift front wheel round corner...
Harder down the back makes it more taily and lift rear wheels...

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Re: Nissan owners with Nick Mannell lifts

Post by bogged »

morkz wrote:But he's kits seem to be the most popular on the market, even compared to the big balls kit and a few others.

I would say Liam bigballs kits are popular as Mannells..
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Post by Bingham »

popularity is not always an idication of quality/ (ability to perform the task)
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Post by bogged »

Bingham wrote:popularity is not always an idication of quality/ (ability to perform the task)


very true, more people would use OME kits than most others....

then again more people would be worried about $$ than quality
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Post by fatassgq »

Really most of these companies in question are only getting coils,shocks etc etc from some other company anyway and rebadging so what is the big deal. Prolly put your own kit together and save some coin in the mean time. five link is slightly different I guess but manells just copied or bought and rebadged wizards so.......

No point trying to reinvent the wheel so to speak. Just talk to carrols, kings or dobinson etc, get coils then decide what shocks you want. Auto alliance etc.

Might be a couple of phone calls instead of one though I guess :roll:

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fatassgq wrote:(4wdrivers against rebadging!!!!!)


LMAO!!!!
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Post by Grungle »

fatassgq wrote:Really most of these companies in question are only getting coils,shocks etc etc from some other company anyway and rebadging so what is the big deal. Prolly put your own kit together and save some coin in the mean time. five link is slightly different I guess but manells just copied or bought and rebadged wizards so.......

No point trying to reinvent the wheel so to speak. Just talk to carrols, kings or dobinson etc, get coils then decide what shocks you want. Auto alliance etc.

Might be a couple of phone calls instead of one though I guess :roll:

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I know that Brent from Wizard spent a LOT of time with King Springs to produce a coil that was just right for Wizards lifts. He sponsors a few comp cars and revels in the feedback they give him regading his suspension which he then uses to fine tune his kits. I have one of his 5" kits in and it has been great on road - when you have the swaybars connected and superb off.

In the end though the genuine suspension is designed for only handling whilst anything else aftermarket is designed firstly for one thing (ie lift or travel) and then handling second.

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Post by turbo gu »

i've got a 5 inch kit in our gu and it handles fine. it has been in the truck for about 8 months so i can't remember what it drove like before. it has no rear swaybar onit and the tough dogs set on 5/6. my girlfriend drives it most of the time and she thinks it fine and she stepped out of a sports car so we could by the gu.
the main difference is the centre of gravity is alot higher so high speed corner is out but as long as you remember your driving a 3 ton truck its all good. and it is awesom offroad :D
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Post by morkz »

turbo gu wrote:i've got a 5 inch kit in our gu and it handles fine. it has been in the truck for about 8 months so i can't remember what it drove like before. it has no rear swaybar onit and the tough dogs set on 5/6. my girlfriend drives it most of the time and she thinks it fine and she stepped out of a sports car so we could by the gu.
the main difference is the centre of gravity is alot higher so high speed corner is out but as long as you remember your driving a 3 ton truck its all good. and it is awesom offroad :D


thanks for that info good to see you havnt had to much problems with the tough dogs and the 5" lift. i know my truck isnt a sports car so i know its not going to handle that good but at least it wont be a pig on road.

am looking to replace my LTR's and was going to put a kit together but mannells kits look pretty good.
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Post by GUJohnno »

morkz wrote:am looking to replace my LTR's and was going to put a kit together but mannells kits look pretty good.


Whats the go there....?
You haven't has the LTRS in for long.
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Post by morkz »

GUJohnno wrote:Whats the go there....?
You haven't has the LTRS in for long.


Yeah i know i have had the LTR's for about 6 months and i want more travel in hindsight i should have fitted the 80 series ones.

I was thinking of putting a 3" coil underneath or 4" and it'll probably sag but ARB will just rip up my warranty.
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Post by GUJohnno »

morkz wrote:Yeah i know i have had the LTR's for about 6 months and i want more travel in hindsight i should have fitted the 80 series ones.

I was thinking of putting a 3" coil underneath or 4" and it'll probably sag but ARB will just rip up my warranty.


I'm thinking I should've gone for 4"s on mine. The sills seem to sit too low on the GU's.
As my springs are quite soft I'm sure it's not sitting at around 2"s now...
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Post by morkz »

GUJohnno wrote:
I'm thinking I should've gone for 4"s on mine. The sills seem to sit too low on the GU's.
As my springs are quite sogt I'm sure it's not sitting at around 2"s now...


hey johnno u reckon your konis will be long enough for the 4" coils.

am probably going to get some and see how they go in mine
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Post by CJ Burns Esq »

I got a 4" lift from Manell and had issues with the work manship of the install. I went to Tough Dogs (4 Way Suspension at Blacktown) and they advised me that the incorrect bushes had been installed in the rear, Land Cruiser instead of GQ PAtrol. Additionally the lift kit I have in has sagged a lot on the passenger side. So much so that people are commenting on it. The lift works well and has great articulation, but get under it and check it out yourself to make sure all is well.
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Post by majti »

CJ are you happy with Toughdogs? And how long before lift sagged?

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Post by CJ Burns Esq »

The Tough Dogs are great! I got the 43mm adjustables and I can't fault them. Just beware, if you get them and you are going to get new drop arms you need to get the front shocks with the offset lower pin.
The guys at 4 Ways Suspension are really helpfull and sorted all my issues out straight away and the issues weren't caused by them at all. They just want to maintain their reputation and they do it well.
I can drive the vehicle on hardest setting and no sway bars and it handles resonably well, and drop them for off road.
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Post by CJ Burns Esq »

Sorry forgot the lift sag. less than 12 months before it started to go. Drivers side is fine but passenger is ordinary indeed.
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Post by Tiny »

If you install the SNAKE radius arms, it will hande as good as or better than standard...caster plates / bushes are not as effective, and are therefore not going to handle as well.

]Whatg are you looking at 5" 6" 7" radius arms what tyres etc it all changes things.

I know a number of peoples with mannel kits with different combos, and all seem happy with the kit, but some are not so happy with service (I have never had a problem)

As always, it is what you feel comfortable with

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Post by majti »

The reason why I ask because i plan of buying 5" lift form manell with castor and toughdogs. Isnt his kit acctually snake kit?
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Post by Tiny »

The kit is his own mix of componantry, and I am not sure of where he get all of it. He get a lot of SNAKE gear, including the radius arms, and I know SNAKE gets stuff from 4WAYS in Blacktown.

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Post by bogged »

CJ Burns Esq wrote:Sorry forgot the lift sag. less than 12 months before it started to go. Drivers side is fine but passenger is ordinary indeed.


every single brand of lift will sag in the first 12 mths, the springs settle to start with, they have had 0 kg on them before, now having 2-3ton on them 24/7 aint going to do much eh...
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Post by sparky »

As said before instead of getting a kit just source all the parts yourself.
Will save you money and get the exact shocks, coils and panhards you want.

Thats what I did anyway and am happy with the outcome.
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