Where can I find a notcher?

Post by **N*A*M** » Mon Dec 23, 2002 9:50 pm

I need something like this. Any place in Melbourne I can try? None of the hardware stores know what it is and the tool stores don't seem to have it stocked (I haven't asked them yet though). If you've bought one, tell me where and how much?

Post by **bubs** » Mon Dec 23, 2002 10:19 pm

if it is so that you can put the end of a tube in to a point along another edge of a tube then you dont need it

use a drop saw - 15* cuts if i remember correctly then once it was welded you cant tell

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do that to your tube ends

if that makes any sense

Post by **N*A*M** » Mon Dec 23, 2002 11:31 pm

Yes that makes sense and I can just cut and grind it manually but when you have many joints to cut and weld it becomes very arduous and in accurate. If I can find one here it would save a lot of time and effort. That one in the picture is $40USD on Harbor Freight. I need to find one like it here.

Post by **Cheezy4x4** » Mon Dec 23, 2002 11:33 pm

Just got one from Speedwerx, but isnt $40 thats for sure.

Tue Dec 24, 2002 8:12 am

what ever the od of the tube is just buy a hole saw that size and use it in a drill press. It is a bit of a pain to set the angle in the vice but you work it out after a couple of goes.

Thats what i use

Post by **bj on roids** » Tue Dec 24, 2002 11:02 am

N*A*M wrote:Yes that makes sense and I can just cut and grind it manually but when you have many joints to cut and weld it becomes very arduous and in accurate. If I can find one here it would save a lot of time and effort. That one in the picture is $40USD on Harbor Freight. I need to find one like it here.

you may be best to freight that beast down under, with our dollar buying 56 US cents, it wouldnt be that bad!

with freight i cant see it being more than AU$100!! :twisted:

depending on size/weight

Post by **Damo** » Sun Dec 29, 2002 6:21 am

Cheezy4x4 wrote:Just got one from Speedwerx, but isnt $40 thats for sure.

The Speedwerx jobbies are about $350 last time I checked. Let me know if you're going ahead with the harbour freight one and we'll split the shipping.

Post by **Wendle** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 4:46 pm

I have made a jig to use a belt sander with a 25 grit belt on it, and an adjustable fence with a protractor on it. It takes 15 seconds to notch a 60/30 angle in 43/4mm tube..

Post by **N*A*M** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 5:23 pm

Pics Carlton?

Post by **OVERKILL ENG** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 10:21 pm

another option is use a drill press with a hole saw in it. a decent hole saw is about $30. I have one set up in my mill to notch my tubes and it works awsum.I went through 2 holesaws to get my Zook to where it is now.

Sat Jan 04, 2003 4:52 am

thats exactly what i do

Post by **awill4x4** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 10:43 pm

We use a bridgeport mill and RMR (rapid metal removal) cutters for the sprintcar chassis work we do. They look almost like an oversized threading tap.
Using these we can notch up close then if more material is needed to be removed, we can do it, even if it's less than 0.5mm. You cant do that with a holesaw.
They come in different sizes and we've got 1", 1.25", 1.375" (damaged) and 1.75". We can't find a replacement for the 1.375 one yet.
Unfortunately they're a pricey as hell :( (around the $300 mark) but, we use them every day and look after them well.
Regards Andrew.

Post by **NICK** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 11:46 am

N*A*M wrote:Yes that makes sense and I can just cut and grind it manually but when you have many joints to cut and weld it becomes very arduous and in accurate. If I can find one here it would save a lot of time and effort. That one in the picture is $40USD on Harbor Freight. I need to find one like it here.

this style bolts up to a drill press or the like, buy the time you get the press (you may already have it) it will cost you alot more than the 40USD and they really arnt that good.

Basicailly it is a brace for a metal hole saw that holds the tube/pipe.

NICK

Post by **N*A*M** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:44 pm

Nick I know how it works and yes I do have a drill press. Until I get this, I will use an offset vice clamp and manually measure the angle before using the drill press. The money I spend on getting a notching brace like this will save me a lot of time setting up - which adds up since there is a lot of notching to do.

Post by **SAWZALL** » Wed Mar 26, 2003 12:11 am

Yeah yeah I know back from the dead but what can you do.....newbie pfftt.

I think I need a mill to do this as everytime I try it with holesaw/vice/drill press, I get mmmad vvvibbrraatioonnss.

Tomorrow I'll try dyna bolting the press to the wall :?:

Any other suggestions??

Post by **Brad** » Wed Mar 26, 2003 8:56 am

After years of doing it the hard way I bought a Speedwerx notcher and bender. I can honestly say they are the best bits of kit ever purchased. It turned a 2 day roll cage into a 6 hr job.
I use to use a mill and a jig but it was a pain in the ass when you want to get in close to a bend.

ANyway they are way cool. And I reckon well worth the money. You could copy the speedworx ones and make your own. The idea is very simple.

They both paid for themselves in the first 6mths

Post by **Liam** » Wed Mar 26, 2003 9:27 am

i cant see it being more than AU$100!!

bahhhhaaaa.. thats some funny stuff BJ.
Rough rule of thumb for the total cost of anything in US $ to landed here, taxes, shipping etc, multiply the US $ amount by 3 for the small stuff ( you pick up, lie to customs, understated invoices etc)
Multiply by 4 for the big stuff, door to door etc.
NAM, find someone who has a speedworx notcher and hire it from them for a carton of beer. it'll actually work, it's cheaper, your gran wont get felt up by airport security and you'll probably get to drink half the beer anyway.

Post by **NICK** » Wed Mar 26, 2003 9:34 am

dunno about that liam, everything i have bought in has come straight through customs and at minimal cost.

NICK

Post by **Liam** » Wed Mar 26, 2003 9:50 am

So you have told them the real value, paid the GST, told them its a car part and paid the tax, paid the customs clearance fees on shipments over 2 grand and got the bits here in less than 3 months?

Post by **bj on roids** » Wed Mar 26, 2003 11:17 am

dude, american air 3 day express, door to door, $100 US on two front CVs :shock:

for a $900 part i wouldnt multiply by 3

also, our exchange rate is pretty good at the moment

Post by **SAWZALL** » Wed Mar 26, 2003 6:14 pm

Well bolting it to the wall din't work :(

I'm using my mates mill from now on.

I'd like to do a setup similar to wendle's as I think it would be more accurate than the holesaw technique. Especially with my qulaity of work
:(

Post by **Wendle** » Thu Mar 27, 2003 7:08 am

the problem is that it has fuct the nose roller on the belt sander after a little bit of use. It works allright to get you out of trouble from time to time. A full cage would be a 2 belt sander destroying job, though. A full chassis would probably see you ruining 4 :shock:

Post by **Fathillbilly** » Fri Mar 28, 2003 5:28 pm

here is a link for an OZi made notcher goes upto 2-1/2" tupe/pipe but they are not cheap

http://www.steeraust.com.au/steer/notcher.htm

Post by **onall4** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:42 am

I have a Speedwerx Notcher. I bought it just before Cristmas, Havent used it much yet, But it does work great. Cost was under $400 to Sydney from melbourne.

I don't know how long the holesaw's will last, but from what Sam says they should last a while...

http://speedwerx.com.au/cars/index.htm

Pete

Post by **spazbot** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 10:43 am

http://www.speedwerx.com.au/cars/tube_tools.htm
thts the direct link for the notcher and the bender

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