Lock-Rite Locker

Post by **antt** » Wed Apr 02, 2003 10:39 pm

anyone had experience with a lock-rite (LR-07) locker?

a guy has one for sale and i'm wondering how well they work both onroad and off?

are they constantly throwing in and out offroad, or do they stay locked fairly well on loose dirt etc?

Post by **Brad** » Wed Apr 02, 2003 10:52 pm

I have used these in my cruiser. They saty locked all the time. What they do is let one wheel travel faster than the other but never slower. So when you go around a corner it lets the outside wheel travel quicker than the inside.
So it doesn't really unlock fully.
90% of the time they are locked.
I never had a problem although I would only use it in the rear so you can still yurn tight off road.

Post by **Wooders** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 10:37 am

Got one in the front of the TJ - love it.....
Invisible onroad other than the slightest clicks on really tight turns (eg carpark)....offroad full lock and works great....
As for tuirning - yeah the turning circle does suffer a little bit, but if I unlock the my rear ARB it's nearly as good as stock....

Post by **redzook** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 5:49 pm

Brad wrote: What they do is let one wheel travel faster than the other but never slower.

i dont under stand this bit

Post by **Wooders** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 6:21 pm

It's like a ratchet. it can spin one way but not the other. One wheel can "over-run" another in a coast mode, but as soon as you apply the power, or drive straight the rachet is effectively engaged....
Does that sorta help??

Post by **redzook** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 9:30 pm

i get how it works

but that quote dosent make sense

"What they do is let one wheel travel faster than the other but never slower"

if 1 will travels faster the other 1 has to go slower
dosent it?

Post by **MissDrew** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 10:00 pm

redzook wrote:i get how it works

but that quote dosent make sense

"What they do is let one wheel travel faster than the other but never slower"

if 1 will travels faster the other 1 has to go slower
dosent it?

Not slower then the drive line it doesn`t.
When talking about faster and slower they are refering to the speed of the tail shaft etc.

Post by **RUFF** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 10:06 pm

Wooders wrote:Invisible onroad other than the slightest clicks on really tight turns (eg carpark)....

Why would you notice it in the front in a carpark or realy tight turns?
Do you need to be in 4wd on road?
Or are you constant 4wd for some strange reason?

If its fitted to the front and the hubs are unlocked and the transfer is in 2wd then it is imposible to notice on road.

Post by **hypo** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 10:10 pm

RUFF wrote:
Wooders wrote:Invisible onroad other than the slightest clicks on really tight turns (eg carpark)....

Why would you notice it in the front in a carpark or realy tight turns?
Do you need to be in 4wd on road?
Or are you constant 4wd for some strange reason?

If its fitted to the front and the hubs are unlocked and the transfer is in 2wd then it is imposible to notice on road.

was thinking the same as u Tony

Post by **AussieCJ7** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 10:30 pm

TJ's (jeep wrangler for you toy boys :finger:

) like Wooders truck do not have free wheeling hubs

Post by **RUFF** » Fri Apr 04, 2003 7:37 am

AussieCJ7 wrote:TJ's (jeep wrangler for you toy boys ) like Wooders truck do not have free wheeling hubs

So are they constant 4wd or do they have auto locking hubs?

I would not know about the hubs on a jeep as the only jeep i have ever seen on a trail was bogged to the sills and i drove around it in my Toy :finger:

Post by **bj on roids** » Fri Apr 04, 2003 8:11 am

RUFF wrote:
AussieCJ7 wrote:TJ's (jeep wrangler for you toy boys ) like Wooders truck do not have free wheeling hubs

So are they constant 4wd or do they have auto locking hubs?

I would not know about the hubs on a jeep as the only jeep i have ever seen on a trail was bogged to the sills and i drove around it in my Toy

Its not really tech tony, but its funny none the less :lol:

Sorry but you Jeep guys do it to us

Post by **Wooders** » Fri Apr 04, 2003 9:33 am

The TJ doesn't have hubs Auto or manual.....it's always connected....but think of it as haveing your hubs engaged but in 2wd - it will still be "invisible".....
Bloody hubs just make things more clomplex than they need ta be :finger:

...

redzook,
Ok you've got the back rachet concept in your mind right? OK when you go around a corner the outside wheel needs to travel a greater distance than the inside wheel (sorta obvious).....so the "ratchet" mechanism means the outside wheel can overrun or travel faster than the inside wheel to travel a greater distance in the same timeframe....
Not sure how else to explain it.....

Post by **12uke** » Fri Apr 04, 2003 9:57 am

Antt if you want to know what they drive like on the road come on over and take my vitara for a drive?????????

Post by **bj on roids** » Fri Apr 04, 2003 10:09 am

Wooders wrote:The TJ doesn't have hubs Auto or manual.....it's always connected....but think of it as haveing your hubs engaged but in 2wd - it will still be "invisible".....
Bloody hubs just make things more clomplex than they need ta be ...

redzook,
Ok you've got the back rachet concept in your mind right? OK when you go around a corner the outside wheel needs to travel a greater distance than the inside wheel (sorta obvious).....so the "ratchet" mechanism means the outside wheel can overrun or travel faster than the inside wheel to travel a greater distance in the same timeframe....
Not sure how else to explain it.....

BUY IT ANTT (shouldnt have bought the vit but who cares now just buy the locker dammit) hahaha

wooders, the front shafts and stuff will still turn, but just idly (no torque) will shudder if front shafts are bad too :lol:

Post by **BundyRumandCoke** » Fri Apr 04, 2003 10:36 am

Ive got a Daihatsu Rocky running front and rear Detriot Lockers. They are, much the same as Lockrites. They remain locked in normal circumstances, only unlocking when cornering force overcomes spring pressure within the locker. I also hear the faint click click when cornering on bitumen. This is the dog teeth in the locker ramping up and over each other against spring pressure. No affect on steering or anything when in 2wd. No affect on anything when hubs locked in and 2wd. No affect on anything when hubs locked and 4wd and no load. Only time affect is felt, and most obvious is harder steering (no power steering here) is when in 4wd, hubs locked, and under power. Car has a tendancy to want to go straight ahead, but im sure this is exactly the same as when any other front locker is fitted.

Hope this helps

David

Post by **RUFF** » Fri Apr 04, 2003 6:47 pm

For those that have never seen a lockright out of the vehicle and disasembled here is one.

Post by **pegasus** » Fri Apr 04, 2003 7:20 pm

Hey Ruff

Did you end up finding anything wrong with that lock-rite locker?

Stew

Post by **Brad** » Fri Apr 04, 2003 9:00 pm

Seems my speed comment has been explained. I was just trying to make the point that it was locked all the time and unlocked when one wheel had to go quicker. I have met a lot of people who seem to think it is unlocked and locks up when you need it.

If you have you hubs locked in or no hubs so you are constantly locked in wouldn't it feather the tyres a bit as the wheels would get pushed around more when cornering due to the axle in effect behaving like it is solid till there is enough force to let the outside wheel go faster ?

Funny story about my locker in the BJ42, when I took it for a RWC the mechanic failed it cause he said the diff was stuffed and about to fail. He went on to tell me he had pulled it apart and there was teeth mission from the pinion gear which was making it click. He then tried to charge me for the labour and gave me a $500 quote to fix her up.. I asked him if he knew what a locker was and his boss in the back ground nearly pissed himself laughing so much as I had let the guy rabbit on with total bullshit for about 5 mins. Needless to say he gave me the RWC and didn't even charge me for it as he knew he had been caught out..

Post by **Westoztroopa** » Fri Apr 04, 2003 10:59 pm

Another satisfied Lockright customer here...

I say go for it! 8)

Noel

Post by **Brad** » Fri Apr 04, 2003 11:03 pm

Any one got a line on a good place to buy a lock rite from ?? I saw 4wd wharehouse in Sydney was ddoing a 2 for 1 offer or something a few years back ..

Post by **bj on roids** » Sat Apr 05, 2003 8:24 am

from memory brad that was 4WD systems. And it wasnt lock-wrongs, it was LOKKAS. Similar product, although Ive heard bad things, ive never seen bad things first hand.

Pardon my ignorance, but I think liam from the boards here had something to do with them? If not, then :shock:

sorry!

Post by **tojo86** » Sat Apr 05, 2003 9:55 am

what sort of bucks are we looking at say for a 60 series and does anyone know if there better than a detroit locker?

Post by **CJer** » Sat Apr 05, 2003 5:30 pm

I got mine from the US for $220USD bugger all to get it here as they dont weigh much.
Do i only did that cos i had other stuff coming over, I would buy it local if i did it again cos or the warrenty thing and to support the locals

Post by **antt** » Mon Apr 07, 2003 3:21 pm

the wheels are in motion, we'll see how it goes

the bloody diff is making some noise so it needs a rebuild anyway, what better reason to whack a locker in

Post by **BundyRumandCoke** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 10:20 pm

Theres a pretty good article comparing lockers in this months 4WD Monthly. Gives some illistrations, and some pics of them in place. Shows up a Detriot Locker pretty well, cept the captions are a bit wrong. Pic with one side of locker disengaged, (right pic from memory) is what happens when differential action is required. Other pic shows Detriot under normal usage (locked)

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