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Trail Tough Crawler Gears?

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Trail Tough Crawler Gears?

Post by alien »

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http://www.trailtough.com/transfercase_driveshaft.htm

Thats the Trailtough 4.9:1 Transfer Gears... 115% reduction in low range and 16% reduction in high range.

I'm soon to fit 31's and was looking at doing SOMETHING about my gears as cheap as possible and thought this was a pretty awesome deal at roughly $750AU.

What do you guys reckon?
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Post by Podge »

How much homework have you done? Is $750.00AUD with or without freight duty and GST? If it isn't you'll have to take this into account.

Another aspect of the yank reduction gears is that it is good that they come with the gaskets, oil seals, countershaft and washers, but it is stupid only having the 2x countershaft needle rollers. Whilst they are the most important bearings to be replaced in the transfer case, you may as well replace all of the bearings whilst it's apart. Hence you really need a full bearing/seal kit if the job is going to be done properly.

Maybe the Rockhopper-II should have been released. This would have been a 135% low range-19% high range reduction. Very suitable for 31's.
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Post by alien »

yeah i forgot GST and Shipping etc... hmm

well as i see it my choices are pretty much:

Rockhopper Series 3. (22% Hi Range Reduction, 170% low range reduction)

Trail Tough 4.9:1 Transfer Gears. (16% High Range Reduction, 115% low range reduction)

Asian Auto Parts 4.9:1 Transfer Gears. (18% High Range Reduction, 181% low range reduction)

Calmini 5.14:1 Transfer Gears. (18.3% High Range Reduction, 127% low range reduction)

Looks like this is gonna take some serious researching... can anyone give opinions on best bang for buck?
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Post by duncan »

Looking at this myself Calmini 6.5s are $695 at the momment but after emailing them you need to add $135 for shipping both of these prices are in US dollars but they wont accept pay pal or credit card payments .The only way to pay is with a bank wire transfer which will cost you a extra $55 aussie on top and the grand total is $1105 aussie dollars useing yesterdays exchange rate of 79 cents .Is the small saving of $144 dollars worth the hassle of trying to get all the info to send them the money then waitning for shipping to your door or just go local big balls and calmini both give no warrenty on there products.Oh and big balls stil has no 6.1 in stock yet ive been waiting for 3 weeks now still no word.
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Post by alien »

Theres a calmini dealer in bayswater isnt there? Might just call and see what he can offer...
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Post by ca18escort »

Trail Tough 4.9:1 Transfer Gears. (16% High Range Reduction, 115% low range reduction)

Asian Auto Parts 4.9:1 Transfer Gears. (18% High Range Reduction, 181% low range reduction)


Is anyone else curious as to why these gears that are both suposed to be 4.9:1 have got different percentages ofr both high and low range reduction????

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Post by Damo »

ca18escort wrote:Trail Tough 4.9:1 Transfer Gears. (16% High Range Reduction, 115% low range reduction)

Asian Auto Parts 4.9:1 Transfer Gears. (18% High Range Reduction, 181% low range reduction)


Is anyone else curious as to why these gears that are both suposed to be 4.9:1 have got different percentages ofr both high and low range reduction????

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Post by alien »

yeah i noticed this also... one of them is maybe 4.99:1 and the other 4.90:1

..maybe...
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Post by Mczook »

G'day Guys

This is my 2 cent worth & chance to pimp myself, it would be good to see you guys supporting small businesses in Oz like Matts (M&M Custom 4x4), Sam (Overkill Engineering) and myself, rather than giving money to big US companies Sam & I offer 4.9 & 5.14:1. Hopefully we offer more than just good pricing.

So when considering your options we can help & mix it with the best of them. For info I have two 5.14:1 in stock ready to be ordered.
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Post by jtraf »

Price on these gears?????
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Post by alien »

hell yeah - gimme a price on 5.14's! thats 20% reduction yeah?
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Post by ca18escort »

I would love a price on the 5.14's also I am just looking for an excuse to buy a set.

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Post by DeWsE »

ca18escort wrote:I would love a price on the 5.14's also I am just looking for an excuse to buy a set.

Paul


Ill give you an excuse....you have 32's and no gearing.....will that do
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Post by redzook »

check here for a pricing http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=36789

3 threads all on the same thing :shock:

dosent no one read or look in other threads?
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Post by Midget »

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are these the CALMINI gears??,Thats what i heard of matt last time i was talking to him...
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Post by jtraf »

redzook where does it have the price for 5.14 Gears????

I can't see it.......


redzook wrote:check here for a pricing http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=36789

3 threads all on the same thing :shock:

dosent no one read or look in other threads?
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Post by duncan »

Alien yes Eddie at 4x4USA is a Calmini dealer but unless you want to pay way more than anywhere else dont bother the guy is over priced and has no people skills at all when dealing with customers
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Post by redzook »

jtraf wrote:redzook where does it have the price for 5.14 Gears????

I can't see it.......


redzook wrote:check here for a pricing http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=36789

3 threads all on the same thing :shock:

dosent no one read or look in other threads?


it dosent have the price of 5.14's. but sam brings them in a fair bit
he actually runs the 5.14's in his rig
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Post by Mczook »

jtraf wrote:Price on these gears?????


G'day Fellas

The 5.14 & 4.16: 1 Calmini gears that are in stock are $1,295 & $1,150 repectively including packaging & freight to your door ;) . They include the gears, bearings, washers, counter shaft, gaskets & oil :cool: .

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Post by ca18escort »

And there in lies my problem. I have allready rebuilt my transfercase so I don't really want to spend extra money on a kit that has the shaft bearing and gaskets I just want the gears. I don't spose you would be willing to separate???


DeWse,
Tell me about the 32" with std gearing went for a wheel on tuesday afternoon.........not fun on some of it when you have to carry that much speed. I would much rather crawl over stuff than hit it at speed. I have got a couple of trips away with work over the next couple of months so i am just trying to decide if I should do it now or wait till I get back around June.

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Post by alien »

USA 4WD in Bayswater (Perth) can do 5.14 Transfer gears (18.3% high range reduction) for $1080!

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Post by DeWsE »

alien wrote:USA 4WD in Bayswater (Perth) can do 5.14 Transfer gears (18.3% high range reduction) for $1080!

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Push eddie for a lower price, shane did and it worked....but he spends thousands there
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Post by Mczook »

ca18escort wrote:And there in lies my problem. I have allready rebuilt my transfercase so I don't really want to spend extra money on a kit that has the shaft bearing and gaskets I just want the gears. I don't spose you would be willing to separate???


DeWse,
Tell me about the 32" with std gearing went for a wheel on tuesday afternoon.........not fun on some of it when you have to carry that much speed. I would much rather crawl over stuff than hit it at speed. I have got a couple of trips away with work over the next couple of months so i am just trying to decide if I should do it now or wait till I get back around June.

Paul


I thought you were looking for an excuse, sounds to me you are talking yourself out of it ;) . You will use most of the kit most of the kit and the items you dont will be spares. You could also make money out of it by selling your rebuilt one and get another to put your gears in, but thats only if you have an excuse to do so :D ;)

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Post by built4thrashing »

Asian Auto Parts 4.9:1 Transfer Gears. (18% High Range Reduction, 181% low range reduction)


these sound interesting as it gives 181% in low range but only 18% in high. perfect for 31s
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Post by DAZZ »

So will an 18%reduction in high range correct the gearing for 31s (RPM @ 100km\h)??? Have been trying to work out the gearing difference and have gotten my calculations wrong. :oops:

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Post by ca18escort »

Sean,
You are right....it has been a budget build so far and being the tight arse that I am I am having trouble parting will over $1000 for gear that I know I really need. I guess I will just have to bite the bullet and do it. It would certainly help if I could sell that bloddy Triton though :roll:

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Post by ZOOK60 »

built4thrashing wrote:Asian Auto Parts 4.9:1 Transfer Gears. (18% High Range Reduction, 181% low range reduction)


these sound interesting as it gives 181% in low range but only 18% in high. perfect for 31s

tell me how a 4.9:1 gearset can give 180% in low range??????????????
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Post by alien »

because the low range gears change as well as high range ones.. right/
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Post by redzook »

alien wrote:because the low range gears change as well as high range ones.. right/


4.9:1 is the low range

they are saying that is as low as a 6.129:1 rockhopper

can u do the math?

obviously there is a mistake there somewhere
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Post by Mczook »

alien wrote:USA 4WD in Bayswater (Perth) can do 5.14 Transfer gears (18.3% high range reduction) for $1080!

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Fuc$#@! :shock: that is cheap, he is not making money on that, I am interested to know if he has them in stock at that price or are they on some cantainer somewhere. Obviously Calmini is giving him a lot of luving so if I was in the market I would take advantage of that price ;)
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