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Top mount intercooler.
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Top mount intercooler.
Some of you here have seen my fabrication projects here before and here is some info and photo's of my latest project.
An interesting project I've been involved in lately is fabricating and welding a top mount intercooler system for an early 80's petrol Jackaroo. We considered front mount's but a severe lack of space meant we decided to go down the top mount route.
The car owner fabricated his own turbo system using a blow through setup on his existing carby, it worked quite well but detonation under high temps with standard fuel meant he needed to cool the intake charge. That's where I came in as I've built a number of custom intercoolers for different applications and this was quite a challenge.
He managed to source a factory diesel turbo bonnet/scoop/seal assembly so that gave us core sizes we needed. I would have preferred a slightly longer core but due to the carby position we were stuck with what we eventually ended up with. Luckily the height we had to play with allowed us to us a 75mm thick core so volume was quite good considering it's only a 2 litre engine.
He's had it on for little over a week and is very happy with his performance gains and the ability to now run the car on standard fuel. Throttle response is excellent and the cooler seems to work a treat with a very nice temperature drop on the outlet side.
I guess it just goes to show that not all top mounts should be disregarded for performance gains. (depending on application of course.)
Regards Andrew.
An interesting project I've been involved in lately is fabricating and welding a top mount intercooler system for an early 80's petrol Jackaroo. We considered front mount's but a severe lack of space meant we decided to go down the top mount route.
The car owner fabricated his own turbo system using a blow through setup on his existing carby, it worked quite well but detonation under high temps with standard fuel meant he needed to cool the intake charge. That's where I came in as I've built a number of custom intercoolers for different applications and this was quite a challenge.
He managed to source a factory diesel turbo bonnet/scoop/seal assembly so that gave us core sizes we needed. I would have preferred a slightly longer core but due to the carby position we were stuck with what we eventually ended up with. Luckily the height we had to play with allowed us to us a 75mm thick core so volume was quite good considering it's only a 2 litre engine.
He's had it on for little over a week and is very happy with his performance gains and the ability to now run the car on standard fuel. Throttle response is excellent and the cooler seems to work a treat with a very nice temperature drop on the outlet side.
I guess it just goes to show that not all top mounts should be disregarded for performance gains. (depending on application of course.)
Regards Andrew.
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Moose, we haven't done any before and after dyno tests. The main point was to prevent detonation and any power gain was a bonus. The owner says that in "seat of the pants" driving it feels much stronger throughout the rev range. Apparently a Jeep renegade soft top 4 litre got the shock of his life when he tried to sneak up on the left hand lane at a set of lights only to get blown away by this very ordinary looking Jackaroo. The owner says it also gives V6 Commodores a very hard time.
An added benefit is a reduction in water temps and the exhaust manifold is no longer getting as hot as previously, so obviously the lower intake charge temps are helping here also.
There's just a little heat shielding required on the turbo side to reduce radiated heat from the exhaust manifold. We may possibly run some thermotek padding underneath the shroud over the rocker cover to minimise heat rising from the motor. The shroud can't be seen in the photo's but the air as it goes through the cooler from the bonnet scoop is directed backwards underneath the cooler towards the transmission tunnel. It's very similar to a DTS intercooler setup but even though I happen to be biased, I think mine is better than theirs. 8)
Cheezy, I thought your GQ is a normally aspirated V8.
Stepho, I never really took much notice on hours, it was an interesting technical excercise for me. I do remember however that it seemed to take a longer time than I thought.
Regards Andrew.
An added benefit is a reduction in water temps and the exhaust manifold is no longer getting as hot as previously, so obviously the lower intake charge temps are helping here also.
There's just a little heat shielding required on the turbo side to reduce radiated heat from the exhaust manifold. We may possibly run some thermotek padding underneath the shroud over the rocker cover to minimise heat rising from the motor. The shroud can't be seen in the photo's but the air as it goes through the cooler from the bonnet scoop is directed backwards underneath the cooler towards the transmission tunnel. It's very similar to a DTS intercooler setup but even though I happen to be biased, I think mine is better than theirs. 8)
Cheezy, I thought your GQ is a normally aspirated V8.
Stepho, I never really took much notice on hours, it was an interesting technical excercise for me. I do remember however that it seemed to take a longer time than I thought.
Regards Andrew.
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Sort of correct Juzza, its a Non turbo diesel 4,2 slug, soon to get a big boost roller bearing turbo and intercooler, new tray, cage, lockers, lift and a shyt load of Cheezy racing products.
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