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engine conversions

Post by robbie »

so guys

lets start a thread up on engine conversions, would be good as a whole forum.. but anyway

stuff to add:

-what have you done yourself?
-what have you seen done?
-ideas of what can go in what?

just anything.. sorta like a library full of engine conversion info ;)
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Post by grimbo »

Ok I'll play

I have a Corolla 5k 1500 in my 87 Suzuki Sierra with the 5 speed toyota gearbox. Fairly easy conversion, had to change one engine mount, use a electric fan in front of the radiator, and a custom jack shaft between gearbox & transfer case.

Pros: Cheap engine $500 & gearbox $400
More torque than Suzuki 1300
Lower first gear

Cons: Not a Suzuki engine
Older engine
Import engine with unknown history

Other engines I 've seen swapped into Zuks

Vitara 1600
Nissan SR20
Mazda rotaries
4AGZE
22r
350 Chevy
4.3 V6
2.5 Ford
1.9 VW Diesel
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Post by robbie »

haha love that sig man!

do you know anything about the 350 conversion? what drive line did they run?

was it a b!tch of a conversion?
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Post by tritonasuras »

About ten years ago,
i had a LWB suzuki sierra, 85/86 model ( i think)
When i bought it, it had a 4age 1.6 corolla motor and gearbox in it.
Looked to be a fairly easy conversion.
A body lift would make a little more room too.

customising is only limited by the depths of ones pockets

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Post by planb »

isnt the 4AGE an east west motor with transaxles ?
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Post by N*A*M »

my sj40 is getting a rover 215 with a dellow bellhousing + toyota g52 + dual cases + 4.7 gears

engine pros:
- cheap alloy v8
- high mounted alternator and distributor
- parts and knowledge plentiful
- carby handles side angles well
- can run quite low rpms before stalling
- could be built to put out lots more power than stock

cons:
- uncommon conversion
- lots of custom work required so costs add up
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Post by Dozoor »

They actually make a kit robbie, is done by Lightning conversions ,
Tampa bay , florida usa. the problem is they mostly convert them to 2 wheel drive :( they sell some good stuff though ,example : Leather trim kits . Huge dollars for any of there stuff .
I read a test on one of there conversions once somwhere it had great
0-60mph , 4.7 seconds :twisted: i'm not sure but i think it was an chev LS1, or simaler used in the mix!
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Post by greg »

hey dozoor, you've gotta change that avatar man... that thing is killing my concentration big time :shock:
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Post by moose »

Dozoor wrote:They actually make a kit robbie, is done by Lightning conversions ,
Tampa bay , florida usa. the problem is they mostly convert them to 2 wheel drive :( they sell some good stuff though ,example : Leather trim kits . Huge dollars for any of there stuff .
I read a test on one of there conversions once somwhere it had great
0-60mph , 4.7 seconds :twisted: i'm not sure but i think it was an chev LS1, or simaler used in the mix!


yeah, the first conversion they did , he got done for speeding !!!!!
125mph !!!!! :shock: :shock:
the cop couldnt believe wat it was !!!! but only 2wd !!! :twisted:
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Post by MKPatrolGuy »

planb wrote:isnt the 4AGE an east west motor with transaxles ?


They also came out in the Sprinter (i think) which has it mounted north south
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Post by MKPatrolGuy »

I have a 400 Chev and truck 5 speed to fit into my Patrol when I pull my finger out. Cars coming off the road after ANZAC Weekend to get it done.
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Post by MKPatrolGuy »

Grimbo, Is your conversion engineered. If so what did they say about using an engine older than your Zook?
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Post by robbie »

good luck with it dave!

this thread is turning out nicely..
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Post by antt »

not that different, but at the moment, a mate of mine is dropping a 350 chev into an fj40, backed up with a turbo700 box and a 75 series transfer case. will eventually turn 37in mtr's :D
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Post by robbie »

doesn't anyone run 351 clevelands ?

they are a mega powerplant!!
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Post by moose »

let me see !!!!
pajero with VN V6 & auto !!!
Feroza with VP V6 & hilux manual !!
Bundy with soarer 1G-GTE & standard manual !! (seen it )
CJ5 with 350 chev & auto !!!!
Maverick with 3.0 VL turbo & manual !!!


XB falcon with 350 chev :shock: (seen it )
HZ kingswood with 302 windsor !!! :shock: (seen it)



patrol with 350 chev !! (seen it )
mav hybrid with 403 alloy headed chev !!! (seen it & luv it !!!)


& others !!!!! :finger: :finger:
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Post by Cheezy4x4 »

SBC stroked to 403 into Whatever the thing is in my shed, and looking at putting a big stroker BBC somwhere around the 600 cube mark into a GQ tray. :shocked!:
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Post by robbie »

cheezy, you're nuts ;)
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Post by MKPatrolGuy »

Cheezy4x4 wrote:SBC stroked to 403 into Whatever the thing is in my shed, and looking at putting a big stroker BBC somwhere around the 600 cube mark into a GQ tray. :shocked!:


Is this the nothing radical tray for the outback challenge or a different one :?:
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Post by BUNDERA »

hey moose the bundy with the soarer 1G-G engine (is that the twin turbo thing that daniel would heve been telling me about?

When u say standard manual do you mean the stock G52F gearbox? :shock:

I want to see pics of this thing, fark it must go.

Tell me more :D

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Post by RUFF »

Engine conversions i have done-Not just 4wds.

Sierra with a Toyota 2T and alloy case 5spd.- Easy almost bolts staight in with no tailshaft mods you couldnt do yourself.

2WD Hilux with 308 and trimatic- Again this almost bolts straight in with no special adapters.

4wd hilux's with 253's and 308's- Using both dellow and marks adapters.

4wd hilux with 4.4 Leyland- not finished yet but has been simple with Dellow bellhousing.

KE70 Corolla with 2T and Alloy case 5spd. Almost bolt in with all available off the shelf Toyota parts.

VL Calais with 200kw injected 5ltr and T5 manual gearbox- This was originaly Turbo 6 and was prob one of the harder conversions i have done as the tunnel is not large enough for the T5. But a BFH fixes that. Other than that it bolts in with all VN crossmembers and tailshaft. Wiring was a bit of a pain but it ran 14.01 on the quarter.

Other than that just basic stuff like 22R into an early Diesel hilux and 5ltr early commodore conversions from 6 and 4cyl.

Conversions mates have done-

4wd Hilux with- 308 and Turbo 350 using a home made transfer case adapter which is quite simple to make.

4wd hilux with- 253 Dyna 5spd and MQ non remote transfer and landcruiser diffs.

4wd Hilux's with- Commo v6s and Cheviy V6s

Early Ford Capri with- 800hp twin turbo windsor :shock:
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Post by moose »

forgot one !!!!!
MK2 cortina !!! 289 windsor & auto !!!

TD cortina , 302 BOSS !!!!!! (tunel rammed )
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Post by AussieCJ7 »

moose wrote:let me see !!!!
pajero with VN V6 & auto !!!
Feroza with VP V6 & hilux manual !!
Bundy with soarer 1G-GTE & standard manual !! (seen it )
CJ5 with 350 chev & auto !!!!
Maverick with 3.0 VL turbo & manual !!!


XB falcon with 350 chev :shock: (seen it )
HZ kingswood with 302 windsor !!! :shock: (seen it)



patrol with 350 chev !! (seen it )
mav hybrid with 403 alloy headed chev !!! (seen it & luv it !!!)


& others !!!!! :finger: :finger:



Moose what auto was on the CJ5 ?? The 350 is a common swap but the auto can be done but leaves a very very short drive shaft That is why the only model CJ's that amc put auto in was the CJ7 and CJ8
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Post by moose »

turbo 400 into landcruiser x-case !!!!!
x-case hung way low !!!!!!
was in 4WD monthly , awhile back !!!!! silver with American Racing rims !!!
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Post by CRUSHU »

my brother has an early capri with alloy headed clevo, a mate has a mk 1 cortina with a 460, other mates have gemini's with vortech supercharged v6, std v6, turbo 2l and 502 chev. too bloody many gemini's!!
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Post by bigsteve »

My brother in-law had a mk3 zephyr with a blown 289 in it, but the best I have seen was 13b turbo in a formula V, this thing blew away porshes, gtrs everthing at winton on a club day.

I used to be in the mazda car club (Had a 13b rx2 club sprint car) so I have seen a rotary put into just about everything.
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Post by cbr »

My 4runner currently has a VQ 5.0lt EFI motor with a dellow bell housing, Toyota w56 gearbox and dual cases.

Did this myself the wiring the first time took a couple of weeks because I shorten and lengthened the wiring harness in 4 places to hide the wiring. I probably solded over 300 wires :shock:

The second time I did it with a new harness (when I rebuilt the runner after the rollover) it took 3 hours.

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Post by Wendle »

My uncle, who is well over 60 nowadays, built a few oddball cars in his youth, they were all american, they were all painted bright yellow, and they all copped big deisel truck engines. I don't remember ever seeing any of them, but my mum has a few photos of them, all old things like Dodge DeSotos, S-series Valiants, etc... His last one was an Impala with a supercharged deisel in it that got cleaned up by one of the old red rattler trains in melbourne. He now has a pretty tame blown deisel jeep cherokee.
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Post by HSV Rangie »

Have done a few.

Mostly 4x4.

Chev LT1 innto toy 55 series wagon.
Chev 350 into 40 serious.
Chev 327 into G60 nissan.

Latest is HSV 215 now around 230 KW in 1986 RR.
Pluss a few other bits.
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Post by Ferwoaza »

Kids battery operated 4wd, upgraded with a truck battery, clocked doing 35kph and it could climb trees (till it flipped) :shock: :lol:
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