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WA Events
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WA Events
Just thought id let the WA crowd no that I rang Alan Crane yesterday and now there is only going to be 2 comps this year.The night nav run and the Night Owl event again he said they gave up on doing the other 4 events in cluding WAs first rock crawling event because they couldnt get anyone to help out with marshalling and helping develope the sights for the comps
That appears to be correct Paul as I wasnt aware of another night navigation comp to be run here in WA sorry to all those involved .What I wanted everyone to no was that what looked like WA comps were going to take of and finnaly get some recognition has unfortunatly stalled once again .This leaves just a very small amount of comps to go in .Personaly Im waiting for someone to organise a rock crawling event or a real full on comp .If this was to happen I would personaly devote alot of my own time to help get started and if possible compete ,unfortunatly I dont no were to start to organise my own comp as I no that there are more than enough good cars and drivers in WA just waiting for things to happen
The navrun Im talking about is by these guys
http://member.netlink.com.au/~maptrap/navrun2003.htm
I know what you mean about a full on comp in WA.
I think a WA comp that has an outlaw/buggy class is definatly called for!!!
The big problem with that is bloody insurance.
Has anyone heard if Russell from Oplock balcatta is going to run his winch challenge comp this year?
http://member.netlink.com.au/~maptrap/navrun2003.htm
I know what you mean about a full on comp in WA.
I think a WA comp that has an outlaw/buggy class is definatly called for!!!
The big problem with that is bloody insurance.
Has anyone heard if Russell from Oplock balcatta is going to run his winch challenge comp this year?
R.I.P Brock Fontanini 28-3-06 - 16-2-08
www.teamcarnage.net
www.teamcarnage.net
The latest issue of 4wd monthly has this in it
http://members.westnet.com.au/western4x4/GirlieLux.jpg
Listing a heap of WA comp dates.
Did allan not cancel the add early enough
Paul.
http://members.westnet.com.au/western4x4/GirlieLux.jpg
Listing a heap of WA comp dates.
Did allan not cancel the add early enough
Paul.
R.I.P Brock Fontanini 28-3-06 - 16-2-08
www.teamcarnage.net
www.teamcarnage.net
Well how about we just have a hard fun day?? I’m sure once a few of us are ready I can help organise a day marked out day at Shane’s. We can just organise a scoring sheet and muck around as mates?
It will be invite only though and only a select few rig’s. That way we can really push each other as mate’s.
I’ll think of a prize… hmm maybe a night out with Shane, romantic dinner or something.
Duncan what rigs did you have in mind? I’m not sure how many good ones there are.
It will be invite only though and only a select few rig’s. That way we can really push each other as mate’s.
I’ll think of a prize… hmm maybe a night out with Shane, romantic dinner or something.
Duncan what rigs did you have in mind? I’m not sure how many good ones there are.
[quote="STD CONSUMER"]haha, i'm tellin you, my camp was hard to find on Saturday night!
then i shared my bed with 2 second tom... [/quote]
then i shared my bed with 2 second tom... [/quote]
duncan wrote:That appears to be correct Paul as I wasnt aware of another night navigation comp to be run here in WA sorry to all those involved .What I wanted everyone to no was that what looked like WA comps were going to take of and finnaly get some recognition has unfortunatly stalled once again .This leaves just a very small amount of comps to go in .Personaly Im waiting for someone to organise a rock crawling event or a real full on comp .If this was to happen I would personaly devote alot of my own time to help get started and if possible compete ,unfortunatly I dont no were to start to organise my own comp as I no that there are more than enough good cars and drivers in WA just waiting for things to happen
The way I see it there are two man issues - Insurance and venue. The guys in the eastern states have an advantage over us because they have offroad parks. It would seem that the insurance seems to be either covered by the parks or a cheaper becuase it is in a park (not public space).
If we want a rock crawling comp in WA, it might be best to get an existing eastern states promoter to organise one. These guys will have the knowledge and insurance contacts to get something going. You could try - Sam Strange Rover at or David (MMM) http://www.xtreme4x4sport.com.au/ or http://ccda.4wd.org.au/cms/
Chris
Sounds good Chris as I thought we may be able to lease the quary property for the weekend to hold a comp as the trials motor bike assoceation use it fairly often.Im sure I could invite about 20 good cars for a drive just depends on the drivers if they want to give it a go.
Me zuk
Shane zuk or jeep
Matt w jeep
Steve jeep
Adrian hilux
Dave surf
daves mate surf
grahame zuk
tripod zuk
bazooked zuk
gary raf hiluxor gq
frank jeep
andrew zuk
trevor jeep
james gq
bevan hilux
christian hilux
paul hilux
alka jeep
thats just a few people i no that i think would give it ago i no more people but the course i would set might put some people of then there is other clubs
Me zuk
Shane zuk or jeep
Matt w jeep
Steve jeep
Adrian hilux
Dave surf
daves mate surf
grahame zuk
tripod zuk
bazooked zuk
gary raf hiluxor gq
frank jeep
andrew zuk
trevor jeep
james gq
bevan hilux
christian hilux
paul hilux
alka jeep
thats just a few people i no that i think would give it ago i no more people but the course i would set might put some people of then there is other clubs
ausyota wrote:Hopfully the lux will be worthy of entering in a couple of months.
Its no buggy! but it should be pretty capable
Paul.
I am just waiting for the written confirmation (I have virbal confirmation)from the cops to chop the runner down to a single cab, steel flat tray with rollbar, 3 link rear end, cross-over steering, shock hoops, duals, lift, etc, etc
As soon as this happens out comes the grinder
I also have a new arb locker to put in and synthetic rope (just need a winch
) that I got from the US when I was there last year.
Hopefully mine will be a little better offroad
Chris.
Well with the people you just mentioned (and I can think of a lot more ppl) I think it would be best to organise a gymkana rather then a comp. A lot of the ppl you have just mentioned I think will be more then happy to compete in this sort of activity. I’m getting confussed though Duncan coz you say you want a really HARD rock crawling comp. I have been out heaps now on the rock’s and I can say a lot of those people will struggle to keep up especially if you make it hard. If we did a few classes that would be good.
Now on another note Shane is looking to spend some cash on investment properties. I know he would consider buying a farm type place. Just maybe he could buy some property out in collie or something as it’s not to expensive. This would solve location. I have some really good contacts in the earth moving business and may be able to get some stuff moved around for a track at a reasonable price.
I think if we really want to get serious about our own comps then we really need to start a club. That way we can get club insurance. We have been avoiding this for quite some time now because we all don’t have a clue how to run one, and also we just use outers / ausjeep as our meeting place. If we start a club we can then strive forward to get things done.
A couple of advantages of being a club:
Insurance for club members
Money
4x4 Association
A name to call ourselves to pimp ourselves to get support. (Team evolution would be worked into this me thinks)
Sponsors (Mandurah 4wd, ARB osbourne, Hella lights etc etc)
A committee focussed at get a comp started. Driving force
Their is heaps of behind the sense stuff that needs to be done to get a comp running. We could all join the nightowl4x4 club but I for one don’t have the same vision as they do. But it would be good to participate to learn the ins and outs.
It all sounds very hard but nothing will get done unless we do it. I know everyone will just be saying, I just wanna drive not get stuck doing all this crap. But at the end of the day it’s the next step for us to take.
“The rockcrawling evolution clubâ€
Now on another note Shane is looking to spend some cash on investment properties. I know he would consider buying a farm type place. Just maybe he could buy some property out in collie or something as it’s not to expensive. This would solve location. I have some really good contacts in the earth moving business and may be able to get some stuff moved around for a track at a reasonable price.
I think if we really want to get serious about our own comps then we really need to start a club. That way we can get club insurance. We have been avoiding this for quite some time now because we all don’t have a clue how to run one, and also we just use outers / ausjeep as our meeting place. If we start a club we can then strive forward to get things done.
A couple of advantages of being a club:
Insurance for club members
Money
4x4 Association
A name to call ourselves to pimp ourselves to get support. (Team evolution would be worked into this me thinks)
Sponsors (Mandurah 4wd, ARB osbourne, Hella lights etc etc)
A committee focussed at get a comp started. Driving force
Their is heaps of behind the sense stuff that needs to be done to get a comp running. We could all join the nightowl4x4 club but I for one don’t have the same vision as they do. But it would be good to participate to learn the ins and outs.
It all sounds very hard but nothing will get done unless we do it. I know everyone will just be saying, I just wanna drive not get stuck doing all this crap. But at the end of the day it’s the next step for us to take.
“The rockcrawling evolution clubâ€
[quote="STD CONSUMER"]haha, i'm tellin you, my camp was hard to find on Saturday night!
then i shared my bed with 2 second tom... [/quote]
then i shared my bed with 2 second tom... [/quote]
Suzuki 4wd Club of Victoria has very little effort needed to run it.
We keep it simple, only enough rules to satisfy insurance/legal stuff.
We have a Yahoo group, which nearly runs itself.
We avoid POLITICS, which can be the downfall of any club, by not owning much. Properties used are owned by members, or by bigger clubs for a fee, or in that clubs events. (like Portland Dune Buggy Club and Toyota Landcruiser Clubs)
We don't have driving instruction, this can be done thru bigger clubs.
We dont run any insrance schemes, etc
It can be as simple or as complex as the group wants to make it.
Get an idea what ppl would want an official club to provide by starting a local forum and see where it goes.
benefits of being in a club are insurance, invitation to events, a sense of belonging, discounts on parts and fun.
christover
We keep it simple, only enough rules to satisfy insurance/legal stuff.
We have a Yahoo group, which nearly runs itself.
We avoid POLITICS, which can be the downfall of any club, by not owning much. Properties used are owned by members, or by bigger clubs for a fee, or in that clubs events. (like Portland Dune Buggy Club and Toyota Landcruiser Clubs)
We don't have driving instruction, this can be done thru bigger clubs.
We dont run any insrance schemes, etc
It can be as simple or as complex as the group wants to make it.
Get an idea what ppl would want an official club to provide by starting a local forum and see where it goes.
benefits of being in a club are insurance, invitation to events, a sense of belonging, discounts on parts and fun.
christover
4WD SUZUKI CLUB VICTORIA
http://www.vic.suzuki4wd.com/forum/
http://www.vic.suzuki4wd.com/forum/
I can see were your comming from Dewse but by running a club ever time you go out you either have to let every member come along or first in best dressed which leads to bad comments about a inner circle or what ever but never seems to run well .I would like to become a member of a good club but still have the ability to go for a run only with the people i want to not feel that i have to invite others or cater a trip for everyone .This was why i left the last club i was a member of as same people always winging about trips organised.
As for a comp I will put up my hand to help organise one and not compete in it just to get things happening thought if Shanes looking for property maybe lease one instead of bying .I will get in touch with the guy who owns the quarry to see how he feels about a lease agreement for either a weekend or longer which would then alow us to either just use the propertty legaly or to actualy hold a comp there
As for a comp I will put up my hand to help organise one and not compete in it just to get things happening thought if Shanes looking for property maybe lease one instead of bying .I will get in touch with the guy who owns the quarry to see how he feels about a lease agreement for either a weekend or longer which would then alow us to either just use the propertty legaly or to actualy hold a comp there
You raise an interesting point, but what happens if it’s a club that only has four events a year. Which are all comps…… that why everyone would be invited.
It makes sense to me coz that way we can wheel when ever we want with whoever.
It’s just important to get the insurance.
Lease property, you still need public liability.
I do agree that some clubs suck. But just gotta be mindful of pit falls and make every member aware of what could happen.
Oh I will help with organising..... considering I don't have a 4by
It makes sense to me coz that way we can wheel when ever we want with whoever.
It’s just important to get the insurance.
Lease property, you still need public liability.
I do agree that some clubs suck. But just gotta be mindful of pit falls and make every member aware of what could happen.
Oh I will help with organising..... considering I don't have a 4by
[quote="STD CONSUMER"]haha, i'm tellin you, my camp was hard to find on Saturday night!
then i shared my bed with 2 second tom... [/quote]
then i shared my bed with 2 second tom... [/quote]
Insurance is a comp killer!!!
The www.motomadness.com.au event that Im helping with has to have 5 million dollars pub liability.
Its costing us a few grand for one day! (hard work when its a not for profit event with free addmision)
AND that only covers licenced vehicles!
Anyone with an unlicenced vehicle has to have there own pub liability.
The www.motomadness.com.au event that Im helping with has to have 5 million dollars pub liability.
Its costing us a few grand for one day! (hard work when its a not for profit event with free addmision)
AND that only covers licenced vehicles!
Anyone with an unlicenced vehicle has to have there own pub liability.
R.I.P Brock Fontanini 28-3-06 - 16-2-08
www.teamcarnage.net
www.teamcarnage.net
ausyota wrote:Insurance is a comp killer!!!
The www.motomadness.com.au event that Im helping with has to have 5 million dollars pub liability.
Its costing us a few grand for one day! (hard work when its a not for profit event with free addmision)
AND that only covers licenced vehicles!
Anyone with an unlicenced vehicle has to have there own pub liability.
You really need insurance! The problem is that a committee/organiser can be sued
This is the reality of todays environment. I would be more then happy to help out as my POS still needs alot of work.
So if www.motomadness.com.au event is costing a few grand how much is something like WE Rock costing?? or are they getting the insurance through the park??
Chris.
Although my 4by is not nearly extreme enough to do these sorts of comps I would be willing to help out with marshaling, course building etc when I'm not working. I'm even learning how to use the loader 
(Cat 950 and 966 , and then only like once a month but you got cheap labour on hand anyway).
I also see major flaws with your list duncan
. There are no land rover owners such as myself to poke fun at 
.
I think a 4wd park in WA if promoted correctly could be quite succesfull. If it was marketed as something like a non-sand playground similar to lancelin it might be successful. I know if it was within 1 to 1 1/2 hours drive from perth I would try to get up there at least once a month.
(Cat 950 and 966 , and then only like once a month but you got cheap labour on hand anyway).
I also see major flaws with your list duncan
. There are no land rover owners such as myself to poke fun at .
I think a 4wd park in WA if promoted correctly could be quite succesfull. If it was marketed as something like a non-sand playground similar to lancelin it might be successful. I know if it was within 1 to 1 1/2 hours drive from perth I would try to get up there at least once a month.
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