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GPS - Magellan FX324 MAP Color - FAQ

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GPS - Magellan FX324 MAP Color - FAQ

Post by RoldIT »

Well now that I have worked it out I thought I might pass on a bit of my knowledge I have gained from this experience before I forget and there has been a bit of talk on here recently about this GPS.

I recently purchased a Magellan FX324 from the US as it has now been discontinued in AUS and I have wanted one for a while so thought I'd better get in quick. I purchased it from www.westmarine.com for US$349 plus US$50.80 postage via traceable FedEx. This was the best price I could find hence the reason I jumped on board quickly. The whole transaction took exactly 1 week but the unit was delivered in 3 days once it was picked and packed. This ultimately converted (using the exchange rate at the time) to AU$520 in my hands. Potentially I could have been charged a further AU$125 customs/duty/tax but I was lucky to have avoided this charge.

It turns out I may have just got in in time as it is no longer advertised on their website. West Marine are still selling these on eBay at similar or less prices so have a bid. eBay Link

2 problems I faced initially (one my fault and one I knew about) were, as it was a US purchase it only came with a North American Basemap, the second being it would not maintain a satellite fix. This issue turned out (after assitance from Magellan support) to be, the first time you turn the unit on, you need to leave it on with satellite fix for atleast 20min as it needs to dowload some (unknown?) data from the satellites which allows the unit to maintain a good fix. Mine continually dropped and tried to re-initialise satellite fixes every 20-30sec until I performed a fix that they sent me. After that, all was sweet and unit tracks smooth and true. If anyone is having this same issue, let me know and I will post up the process.

I have also been able to fix the local basemap issue with the help of eMule and the Magellan_Meridian yahoo group. It turns out that most of the functions for doing special things in the Meridians also work with the FX324 with a few differences that Magellan Support inadvertently helped me work out. Bascially you need to "obtain" a copy of the AUS Meridian basemap from the internet (*cough* eMule *cough*) and using an SD card, USB card reader/writer for your computer and the secret menus in the GPS, you can replace the inbuilt basemap. I've tested this and it was surprising how easy and quick it was! I won't bore people with the details here but if anyone wants the step-by-step I will post it up later.

As a foot note, I have also been able to obtain add-in maps called DiscoverAUS to add to this unit. Basically the basemap is used until you get to a certain level of zoom and then DiscoverAUS takes over. This covers surprisingly detailed 4WD tracks all over AUS. The FX324 can only handle 1 detailed map at a time and you can only load a maximum of 64Mb of maps to the unit at once so I advise you need SD cards no larger than 64Mb but you'll need 4 to cover all of Australia at once. Larger cards will work (at the moment I'm using a 512Mb card) but you cannot change maps while in the unit so there is not need for larger cards. I've just been reloading different maps to the same card for testing, not hard to swap between maps using a computer but you may not want to carry one around with you.

I guess in conclusion, I have basically obtained a normally expensive and fully featured mapping GPS, now containing local content, for a bargain price. As I say, if you want one of these bad boys, order quick as they seem to be running out fast. Don't be scared to order from overseas as you can convert the unit to function EXACTLY as if you bought it here within a matter of only hours.

That's about it for now, questions welcomed. :D
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Post by Maxtd5def »

Not sure whether yours works the same as the Magellan Meridians, it should I guess.

The whole of DiscoverAus just fits on a 256 SD card. You've got to divide it up into about seven maps, and change maps manually.

Quite entertaining coming up to a state border, & watching the map disappear!

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Post by RoldIT »

No it dosen't. I thought it would, hence the reason I bought 512Mb card but turns out, it only reads 1 file (detail00.img) from the card and you cannot select another map file without removing the SD card from the GPS and replacing the map file with another using a card reader/writer.

As with the meridian, each region is limited to 16Mb and each map is limited to 4 regions.

Not an issue, just a consideration ...
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Post by RoldIT »

The biggest reason I wrote this is there is very little (Read : FARK ALL!) info on the net about these units. Everything I have added I've basically had to piece together from lots of Meridian and various Magellan general tech and a few educated guesses. Thought the tech may be appreciated by others in the same boat ...
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Post by MYTTUF »

Good work & thanks!!
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Post by hottiemonster »

thanks heaps for the info, my unit should be here tomorrow :armsup:
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Post by ceredig »

good stuff RoldIT, here's a couple of thoughts...

1 base map- You mentioned a procedure for acquiring the Aussie base map, but that is possibly not necessary. If you load up a detail map using DiscoverAus or the old MapSend, the base map is not required because it is only the major roads part of the detail map. When you load up the detail map you automatically get everything that the Base map gives you.

2 Only one region- What a bummer. That must be an oversight by Magellan. In the Meridian series you change map under the "Card Utillities" menu item. Any way, here's a work-around. Carry several SD cards each with a different map on it. If you've got an SD card in your camera, park one of your .img map files on it and swap the cards over when you fall off the edge of your map.

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Post by RoldIT »

ceredig wrote:1 base map- You mentioned a procedure for acquiring the Aussie base map, but that is possibly not necessary. If you load up a detail map using DiscoverAus or the old MapSend, the base map is not required because it is only the major roads part of the detail map. When you load up the detail map you automatically get everything that the Base map gives you..


Yes, DiscoverAUS covers all the details but as soon as I zoomed out everything disappeared, main roads, state borders, everything and it was driving me nuts! I think DiscoverAUS only covers the 4 most detailed zoom levels, nothing higher. I also found some mod info of how to export the maps to show up a higher levels but I couldn't have been shagged wit al dat crap.

ceredig wrote:2 Only one region- What a bummer. That must be an oversight by Magellan. In the Meridian series you change map under the "Card Utillities" menu item. Any way, here's a work-around. Carry several SD cards each with a different map on it. If you've got an SD card in your camera, park one of your .img map files on it and swap the cards over when you fall off the edge of your map.


Am already all over that. I have now acquired 2 more 64Mb SD cards so between the 3 should cover most long trips for me. The FX324 does contain card utilities but none to do with maps, only waypoints/routes, etc. It will still work with 4 regions compiled into 1 map file (.IMG) so I can still fit whole states onto 1 card no worries.
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Post by ceredig »

Yeah RoldIT. That bit about the detail that shows.
When u upload from DiscoverAus or MapSend, you get 'everything'.
When you display it on the GPS, it decides how much detail that it will show depending on what zoom you have selected. Zoom in- see detail. Zoom out- detail is lost. There's a good reason for that. If you are zoomed out and still display all the detail, the screen is soo clutered that you just can't make any sence of it!
On the Magellan Gold you set how much detail you get for each level of zoom from Highest to Lowest with three settings in between.

If you can't set the zoom nor change map, then Magellan have really messed up.
If it were me, I'd be searching though all those menus looking for it. They are surely there somewhere!
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Post by RoldIT »

ceredig wrote:Yeah RoldIT. That bit about the detail that shows.
When u upload from DiscoverAus or MapSend, you get 'everything'.
When you display it on the GPS, it decides how much detail that it will show depending on what zoom you have selected. Zoom in- see detail. Zoom out- detail is lost. There's a good reason for that. If you are zoomed out and still display all the detail, the screen is soo clutered that you just can't make any sence of it!
On the Magellan Gold you set how much detail you get for each level of zoom from Highest to Lowest with three settings in between.

If you can't set the zoom nor change map, then Magellan have really messed up.
If it were me, I'd be searching though all those menus looking for it. They are surely there somewhere!


Nope, it's not there. Remember, these are primarily a marine chart plotter so a lot features in the meridian are not gunna be there for land mapping in the FX324. I bought it for screen size and so far it's kickin ass.

The rest of the pitfalls I have already found workarounds.
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Post by hottiemonster »

well i have my unit now and its in the car, i have been reading through this info and have determined.

mine can with the australian basemaps on it, as it contains some main roads in victoria which i like, like the south eastern freeway and clyde rd etc.

i am yet to load any mapping software on the SD card. i have a SD card which i found out to not be compatible with the unit (lexar) so i was going to see if i could use my kodak brand SD card out of my digital camera as use the lexar in the camera, as that works.

does anyone know if Kodac SD cards work in the unit?

after i get back from tuff truck or possibly today if i have time, i will have a play around with the unit to see if i can put discover aus on the kodak card to see if it works.

i also noticed that for road driving, there is no need to use the external antenna as its fine with the inbuilt one. i am yet to test it offroad.

with the mounting bracket for the unit i screwd it down between the instrument cluster and the JESUS bar for now in my GQ but noticed it is quiet shakey and not sure sure if the 3 screws will be able to hold upto the abuse i give the car off road in reguards to bouncing etc. does anyone have ideas / pics of better or more stable ways to mount the unit.

another thing is can someone post the process i need to do in order to load maps from discover aus onto the sd card for a newb :oops: and make them work on the unit. my dad has one of those sd card reader/writers that plugs into the USB port on the computer so i will use that.

lastly, as i have a com port (serial) cable off the unit, can i just load discover aus onto my laptop and not have the need for an SD card etc. just not sure.

thanks for the replys.

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Post by patrolman »

i bought one a few weeks ago, hope to have it in the car soon and learn how to use it :D
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Post by Toy80Diesel »

some fine points you guys have made there.

I have a meridian colour, with a 256mg card, and yes i can swap between maps on the card from discoveraus image files. I'm amazed to hear on the other model you cannot, perhaps there is a firmware upgrade somewhere to fix this?

I also purchased this from the US and have the basemap to suit. I'm looking for (*cough* emule :twisted: ) the australian basemap also.
But as others have stated, the detailed maps from discoveraus work till about 3.5km on the scale on my unit depending on the map detail I select in the map setup. My father has an australian unit which has the aust basemap and yes it would come in useful in some instances when you want to see the distance between two points that are quite far apart, and still displaying the major routes between the two.

For the person requesting off road senarios and reception, I've had great success i always knowing where I was offroad, must say the reception is great, and thats in the car and with the inbuilt antenna. Does anyone have anything to add about the external plug in model?
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Post by Maxtd5def »

Yep I run an external aerial with my Meridian Colour

It still loses signal in heavily timbered country, but obviuosly not as quickly, e.g. the Watagans

In-car only, you're restricted to those satellites seen through the windows - on the horizon. Some calcs like altitude I think need the satellites spread, not clustered.

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Post by Hales231271 »

Other problem with the fx324 is in the software the unit has a low battery cut out.
If the voltages drop below the factory settings the unit will turn off.
All bad for Comps.
We found that running at night with all lights on and winching the Unit would turn off.

That made me build up a aux box that contains a small Lead acid Battery
and a few diodes that fits betwwen the power source(battery) and the unit.
The unit will always see 12 volts min and will never cut out.
Basicaly it has it's own power supply but is charged by the vehicle charge
system.

I made up a few of these units.
I think Hobzee at Pro comp has a few of my units left.
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Post by hottiemonster »

Hales231271 wrote:Other problem with the fx324 is in the software the unit has a low battery cut out.
If the voltages drop below the factory settings the unit will turn off.
All bad for Comps.
We found that running at night with all lights on and winching the Unit would turn off.

That made me build up a aux box that contains a small Lead acid Battery
and a few diodes that fits betwwen the power source(battery) and the unit.
The unit will always see 12 volts min and will never cut out.
Basicaly it has it's own power supply but is charged by the vehicle charge
system.

I made up a few of these units.
I think Hobzee at Pro comp has a few of my units left.


how much, i will go and see steve on wednesday after tuff truck.
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Post by Thor »

hottiemonster wrote: i have a SD card which i found out to not be compatible with the unit (lexar) so i was going to see if i could use my kodak brand SD card out of my digital camera as use the lexar in the camera, as that works.

does anyone know if Kodac SD cards work in the unit?


ok.. just got one of these units and shopping for SD cards.
has anyone else had a problem with Lexar 64 meg SD cards?
or any other brand? is SanDisk brand O.K?

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Post by striped tomato »

I too have one of these units.

Been a while since I was using it heavily but I'm sure that I figured out how to use multiple 64Mb maps off my 256Mb card.

I find the unit very slow to update while using the DiscoverAUS maps on screen.

I've got oneof the battery backup things mentioned above and it has improved the unit massively as it no longer switches off when winching etc. and would recommend one.

Mine is mounted by a couple of Tec screws to the dash just in fron tof the Jesus bar and whilst it shakes about a bit it has held in there for over 12 months including 5 or 6 comp's.

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Post by Thor »

steve,
what brand SD cards do you use?
have you had card compatability issues?
how did you get a 256 to work?

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Post by hottiemonster »

lexar cards do not work.

i use a 128meg sandisk fine.
and my dad uses a 64meg sandisk in his platnum magellan.

Sandisk is the brand to buy, also kodak doesnt work either.
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Post by Mick_n_Sal »

You guys having trouble with SD cards - A question. Are these units setup for SD cards or MMC ? Some units will take both ( Lowrance ) others will take one or the other. Could also have trouble recognizing cards over a certain size if they can only address 64M.

Just some thoughts
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Post by berazafi »

hottiemonster here

i have no problem running a 128meg sandisk SD card in the unit [fx324 colour], even though it says only 64meg is maximum. so i am guessing that a bigger card will be able to be read also.

not sure if a MMC will work though.
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Post by BIg StEvE »

Hales231271 wrote:Other problem with the fx324 is in the software the unit has a low battery cut out.
If the voltages drop below the factory settings the unit will turn off.
All bad for Comps.
We found that running at night with all lights on and winching the Unit would turn off.

That made me build up a aux box that contains a small Lead acid Battery
and a few diodes that fits betwwen the power source(battery) and the unit.
The unit will always see 12 volts min and will never cut out.
Basicaly it has it's own power supply but is charged by the vehicle charge
system.

I made up a few of these units.
I think Hobzee at Pro comp has a few of my units left.
Just wondering how these backup units perform. Anyone seen any around for sale still?
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Post by TuffRR »

There seems to be a bit of hype about these units and i know a lot of people have bought them because they've seen other guys using them in comps.

I've used one in comps before and must say i do not understand what the fuss is about.

For $500 bucks its not bad, but i've seen guys selling second hand ones here for over $1000. :shock:

I guess my point is given the cost, why not just use a laptop hooked up to a gps receiver? Most of this thread has been people discussing the limitations of the device and a level of inflexibility ie only being able to use 64mb of maps. My laptop setup has about 10gb of maps (effectively all of Australia at 1:25,000) which i can swap between at the click of a button. Plus, I'm not restricted in the type of maps i use.

So why are people so keen on this unit?
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Post by MissDrew »

Just go to j car and get a battery (approx $20) and a diode.
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Post by BIg StEvE »

Lot less cables has to be a bonus. Waterproof for the unlucky people! :shock:

I just picked my colour up for 650 delivered from the states so yes its slightly more exy than a simple puter set up. I personally want to keep my set up as simple as possible.

Anyone know about these backup supplies?
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Post by MissDrew »

TuffRR wrote:
So why are people so keen on this unit?
The biggest screen of any GPS unit which means the info displayed is the biggest of any gps unit which means its the quickest and easiest to read while on the move.

Plus a numatic key pad makes the entering of corrords exremely quick and easy.

I myself did not buy this unit for the displayed mapping as I have a laptop hooked up to Magellan 315 gps. The laptop lays flat on the floor between the seats in my hilux.

The 324 is way quicker and easier to use then the laptop for entering info and for the reading of info.

Even with all this gpsmoving mapping in the hilux you still can not beat a paper map.
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Post by MissDrew »

BIg StEvE wrote:Anyone know about these backup supplies?
Read my post above yours.
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Post by BIg StEvE »

Guts wrote:
BIg StEvE wrote:Anyone know about these backup supplies?
Read my post above yours.
haha yeah thanks mate!
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