Notice: We request that you don't just set up a new account at this time if you are a previous user.
If you used to be one of our moderators, please feel free to reach out to Chris via the facebook Outerlimits4x4 group and he will get you set back up with access should he need you.
Recovery:If you cannot access your old email address and don't remember your password, please click here to log a change of email address so you can do a password reset.

Supercharging and Turboing

General Tech Talk

Moderators: toaddog, TWISTY, V8Patrol, Moderators

Forum rules
Post Reply
Posts: 2678
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2004 2:35 pm
Location: Crestmead

Supercharging and Turboing

Post by Doggy »

Just out of curiousity, can you both super charge and turbo a motor. Is it possible or is there just to much plumbing and farking around. Im not interested in doing either to my 4b, the question just popped into my head today
Top
Posts: 3739
Joined: Sat Dec 11, 2004 10:10 pm

Post by mickyd555 »

sounds like a lot of farking around for nothing...........pop that idea back out the other side...........
Top
A12
Posts: 214
Joined: Thu Jul 29, 2004 10:11 am
Location: Sydney

Contact:
Contact A12

Post by A12 »

I have seen it done, 4AGZTE. 1.6l with a supercharger and a turbo, close to 200kw.

Greg
Greg
2008 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited, Renegade pack, 2" RE Lift, JKS Quicker Disconnects, Seat Glover seat covers.
Top
Posts: 2820
Joined: Sun May 25, 2003 10:04 am
Location: Redbank Plains, QLD

Re: Supercharging and Turboing

Post by Daisy »

Sir Rollsalot wrote:Just out of curiousity, can you both super charge and turbo a motor. Is it possible or is there just to much plumbing and farking around. Im not interested in doing either to my 4b, the question just popped into my head today


yup can be done.
Top
Posts: 2678
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2004 2:35 pm
Location: Crestmead

Post by Doggy »

mickyd555 wrote:sounds like a lot of farking around for nothing...........pop that idea back out the other side...........


Dont worry micky....alot of shit pops into my head, I'll just squeeze it out theback and file it under P for potatoes and pumpkins :D
Top
Posts: 96
Joined: Fri Nov 26, 2004 3:57 pm
Location: North of Clermont Qld

Post by 360 scout »

theres a LC torana around at the moment think it's from brissy been in street machine etc saw it at the rocky car show big block chev ,6/71 blower twin hair driers.
TOYOTAS ARE LIKE TAMPONS!! every pussie has one!


Nitrous is like a hot chick with an STD...You know you want to hit it...Your just afraid of the consequences
Top
Posts: 5457
Joined: Sun Oct 27, 2002 9:49 am
Location: Sydney

Post by Shorty40 »

Aren't some larger trucks both supercharged and tubo charged ?

Volvos maybe :?
Top
Posts: 4275
Joined: Fri Nov 22, 2002 6:41 pm
Location: Western Australia

Post by Hoonz »

Bandag Bullet - Technical Specifications

Make and Model Kenworth T400
Engine Two V8 92-Series Detroit Diesel engines fitted with two blowers, four turbo chargers and injected with nitrous oxide. The original 75mm injectors have been increased to 260mm. Pistons, conrods, crankshaft and camshaft have been balanced. Cylinder heads and air boxes have been ported and polished.
Capacity 24 litres (1500 cubic inches)
Horsepower 2200hp @ 3000rpm - 2800hp nitrous oxide boost
Torque 5600 ft/lb
Transmission Aliison Auto-manual shift - CR 6000
Rear Axle Eaton 2300-series with Detroit no spin locker
Rear Suspension Ladder bar with Watts link assembly
Weight 8 tonnes
Driver Frank Gaffiero
Construction Frank and Charlie Gaffiero
Tyres Standard Bandag Retreads
H( * )( * )NZ loves B( * )( * )BIES
if a fat lady falls in the forest do the trees laugh?
[quote="RUFF"]although i didnt mean to, i squealed like a girl :armsup:[/quote]
Top
Posts: 211
Joined: Wed Dec 18, 2002 8:17 pm
Location: Moura

Post by Carl Coight »

On industrial motors such as the larger Cat, Detroit, Cummins etc They all run 4 and sometimes 8 turbos. These are 30lt up to 110lt rear dump truck engines.
Some of the old GM's ran both the blower and turbos.
Carl
Live fast, die young and have a bloody good looking corpse.
Top
Posts: 38
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 9:00 am
Location: Ippy in Qld

Contact:
Contact bill_

Post by bill_ »

Hoonz wrote:Bandag Bullet
= the shit! love the flames through the tyre smoke

Image
Top
Posts: 729
Joined: Sat Aug 07, 2004 11:42 pm
Location: Maitland

Post by revin »

bill_ wrote:
Hoonz wrote:Bandag Bullet
= the shit! love the flames through the tyre smoke

Image


I remember seeing the orginal bandag bullet truck years ago aswell as Waltz in matilda (the kenworth that blew out windows at the indy :D )

There is also a ski boat with a studybaker motor my friends friend has that we ski behing its supercharged and turboed .
2001 100 series stock as a rock
Top
Posts: 527
Joined: Fri Apr 23, 2004 5:43 am
Location: Auckland, NZ

Post by GQ TROL »

Stephen Booth's GU race truck was supercharged and turbocharged at one point. Think they had issues with it, so they reverted back to turbo only.
Top
Posts: 148
Joined: Tue Dec 03, 2002 9:03 am
Location: Blue Mountains, Sydney

Post by stephen »

nissan march, factory spec


http://www.autospeed.com/cms/A_2216/article.html
Last edited by stephen on Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.
300TDI disco
Top
Posts: 1781
Joined: Mon May 17, 2004 10:01 pm
Location: Geelong

Post by beretta »

Detroit ran both in their truck motors, 1292,892, 692 etc. They are pretty old now, but they got some very large power out of em. Can be done, but wonder how practical given todays advanced ahir dyers or blowers.
Top
Posts: 5179
Joined: Fri Dec 05, 2003 8:15 pm
Location: Brisbane Australia

Post by Shadow »

there are toyota engines that come factory both supercharged and turbocharged

the supercharger is normally fittted with an electric clutch and the computer disengages the supercharger at a certain revs for the larger capacity turbo to take over.
Top
Posts: 748
Joined: Tue Nov 09, 2004 9:45 pm
Location: Lilydale

Contact:
Contact Dzltec

Post by Dzltec »

The early detroit engines had to be supercharged as they were a 2 stoke engine. Without the blower they would not work. More power then required the turbo chargers to be added.

Why not do two turbos, one feeding the other. Cummins have a 5.9l diesel dragster that does 7.98 sec 1/4 miles, it runs 2 turbos, 80 psi boost.

Cheers
Top
Posts: 728
Joined: Sun Aug 24, 2003 8:46 pm
Location: Canberra (too far from the sea)

Post by twinnie »

oh an idears topic i like these :D

i have always thaught it might be posible to make a free wheeling super charger/turbo so at 2500 and below the belt drives the compresser and above that the turbo kicks in so you always have boost.

i'll do a sketch if people need to see the idear

Matt
Top
Post Reply

Return to “General Tech”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 99 guests